High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#4493 of 24700 by maxhonda99 Mar 24, 2004 (6:30 am)
merc1, "Wrong again, obviously you haven't been paying attention. Lets stay current here. I've driven the LS430." Right again, I haven't been paying attention. I actually do some work during the 8am to 5pm work hours.
#4494 of 24700 maxhonda99 by merc1 Mar 24, 2004 (6:40 am)
I hate to keep saying this, but go back over the posts here. I only said the LS' sport option was a tire upgrade because ljfx said it was, I clearly stated that I hadn't checked the Lexus site to confirm any of what he said, it really wasn't that big of a deal. I'm not the one you need to mention this to. Secondly, the ABC provides more than minor handling improvements. Look at the handling numbers for the S-Class in the last Car and Driver comparo with ABC+Sport pk compared to the previous S-Classes they tested without either, hardly minor differences I agree it is an expensive option but it is there. "I actually do some work during the 8am to 5pm work hours." Must we go here? I'm glad you do some work during those hours. If you'll notice most of the time I post late night, hint: I work a different shift from you. M
#4495 of 24700 by maxhonda99 Mar 24, 2004 (7:03 am)
merc1, You mention ABC+sport package. the standard sport package does not include ABC. Is ABC not another couple of thousand $$$ option on top of the regular sport package? And as I remember the regular sport package for $5K+ offers slight improvements in handling, basically due to the tire size and compound difference. In my last post I was referring to the slight improvements in handling with just the sport package, not including ABC. I get C&D and read the review. The S500 is a great car with or without sport and ABC.
#4496 of 24700 Merc: by michael_mattox Mar 24, 2004 (9:20 am)
Here is your paragraph about the sport option, I see no reference to Ifjx comments about a tire change only. I own an LS430 ultra (01) and there is a noticable difference when I set the car in Sport mode (without changing the tires) I have not driven the 04 Sport but would assume it has been upgrade substantually. Here is what is available with my Sport Suspension..Stiffer springs, more aggressive shock absorber damping rates, a thicker rear stablizer bar for reduced understeer and special suspension bushings for a more immediate feel of the road, 17 in. tires.
#4497 of 24700 Merc...Whoops below is your paragraph. by michael_mattox Mar 24, 2004 (9:21 am)
I never said anyone buying an S-Class was buying it for sport, my point is that the option is there and it's a real sport option, unlike the LS, which is merely a tire upgrade. The S Sport package transforms the car in looks and capability. Guess what the S-Class now offers just the option of upgraded wheels and tires too (without the body work). My point is that with an S-Class Sport you'll pay more and you'll get more than the LS' so-called "sport" option.
#4498 of 24700 deja vu all over again by pat HOST Mar 24, 2004 (11:30 am)
(sorry, that's a worn out phrase, isn't it) Back to your separate corners folks. No one is going to win this and the rest of us don't want to wade through it. Thanks.
#4499 of 24700 by warthog Mar 24, 2004 (11:39 am)
Thank you, Host.
#4500 of 24700 by kirstie_h HOST Mar 24, 2004 (12:00 pm)
A reporter is hoping to interview a recent car-buyer who participated in an overnight or 24-hour test drive and then purchased the vehicle. Please respond to 248-890-8582, faratayeyahoo.com or jfallonedmunds.com by 5pm Eastern Wednesday, March 24, 2004. Thanks, Jeannine Fallon PR Director Edmunds.com
#4501 of 24700 Future Lexus? by maxhonda99 Mar 24, 2004 (1:36 pm)
Lexus is going to debut a concept sports coupe at the NY Auto show on april 8, 2004: http://prn.newscom.com/cgi-bin/pub/s?f=PRN/prnpub&p1=20040324- -LAW036&xtag=PRN-prnphotos-37665&redir=preview&tr=1&a- mp;row=1
#4502 of 24700 future Lexus by ljflx Mar 24, 2004 (3:28 pm)
I wonder if that is the same car syswei posted a few weeks ago? But I don't think so. It looks more like the next gen SC and it looks real sharp as well. By the way I am hearing that the next LS will be more close in design to the LFS concept than the new GS is. I've also been told that they will have it in an AWD option and that a hybrid version will have over 400HP. Definitely a 2007 car but with a likely spring 2006 debut.