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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#344 of 24723 marsha7
Jun 29, 2000 (2:34 am)
I know what happened with the name, the point being that the name was plucked out of the air, not from heritage like others. I agree that the lawsuit was stupid. Nobody even heard of Lexis before then.
The Park Ave and LeSabre both tried to look like Jaguars. The current WAS (?) a beautiful design, until they added a grille and side sills in 1997, that totally ruined it.
Jun 29, 2000 (4:39 am)
You wrote: ...the name [Lexus] was plucked out of the air, not from heritage like the others.
I hate to be the one to bring this up but
the name "Mercedes" was someone or other's daughter, and was chosen for no reason other than marketing.
#346 of 24723 Speaking of courtrooms
Jun 29, 2000 (5:26 am)
Lexus took Lincoln to court about the LS signature. They thought ppl would actaully get it confused.
#347 of 24723 hello26
Jun 29, 2000 (7:47 am)
It still has more behind it than the name Lexus. Everyone knows the story as to why her name was used. He wanted to race Gotlieb Daimler's cars under the name Mr.Mercedes, hence his daughter's name. There is nobody names Lexus. There are some Alexis' in the world, but just plain Lexus, I seriously doubt it, and if it were somebody named that car has nothing to do with them. The name Lexus was thought of during a Toyota board meeting. No heritage at all. Glad you brought it up, you proved my point for me, thanks.
#348 of 24723 quattro pearl
Jun 29, 2000 (8:55 pm)
the lincoln LS got a good rating in the offcenter crash tests,beating my beloved A6, the GS series Lexus and the MB E class which got acceptable ratings. to me this seems more useful than "solidity". i dont know what goes into the solid feeling other than weight and suspension components. do you? it is dissapointing to know that the solid cars are not as safe in this test as the others. (i know a single test cannot determine crashworhiness, but it is a good determination of front end collisions). i would assume the LS and S type perform in a similar manner. what surprises me most about the rigidity issue is the A6. the passat, which shares the platform performed better. this seems like an oversight on Audis part, since crashworthiness is very important to luxury car buyers. (the old XJs had among the lowest death rates of any car, without any modern safety features) i still like the Audi, but the solidity the magazines favor seem to be created independent of the platform
Jun 29, 2000 (9:08 pm)
i think the park avenue tries to be a gigantic jaguar, with the gentle rise at the rear to the trunk and the jag style grille. it isnt horrible and looks better than all the other big three large cars.
Jun 30, 2000 (2:21 am)
You have a point. Nobody ever heard of Lexis, the legal research company, until the lawsuit. This may be the first time that paying legal fees to lawyers was the cheaper alternative to the cost of advertising Lexis. LOL 0:)
Jun 30, 2000 (6:17 am)
it is funny though, that lexus took lincoln to court because they called the car the LS6 and LS8, and they dropped the numbers, to LS. i dont know too many LS 400 owners, but they refer to their cars as the LS. this seems much more confusing since lexus had the courts decide to call the Lincoln LS the LS and not LS8. even lexus commercials call the LS 400 the LS. and they forced another company to name their cheaper car the same name. they really are trivial at least, stupid at most.
Jun 30, 2000 (7:40 am)
I never thought of that. People do say they have an LS whether it be Linc or Lex. Who'd a thunk it?
Jul 01, 2000 (3:09 am)
I've been pretty busy lately working on my Masters degree.
I have a Bachelor degree in business from the University of South Florida and I'm presently working on my Masters. My grammar is sometimes questionable I'm sure. Usually I'm typing fast and don't proof what I've written. So what? I still have owned all the cars that I've mentioned. And by the way, I just ordered a platnium Rolex today. Player hate on that while you're at it. While you check my spelling, I'll continue living "the good life". Peace, love, and Soooooooooul train.
I'm sorry, I thought that I'd answered the ES300 seats question. The ES300 was our first luxury car. I bought it for our first anniversary. Anyway, I can't remember the seats honestly. I was just happy to own a Lexus at the time. We only kept the car for about 9 months because of the air conditioning problems we had, which Lexus refused to fix. We sold the car to a Lexus dealer in Orlando and loss about 3000 dollars. Not a good anniversary gift. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
I hope you are enjoying your Jaguars. People always player hate on Jaguars. I see you have already seen that. Beauty is often attacked. Anyway, I've really enjoyed my Jags. They are "crowd pleasers" amost anywhere my wife and I go. I guess you have to own a Jaguar to truly appreciate its charm. No they are not the most technically advanced, but who cares, they are special. Exotic by nature and often leaving people in a state of awe. Good luck with the Jags.
Hope your Fathers day was nice and that you have a happy 4th of July. Be safe.