Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#321 of 24726 Get Your Facts Straight quattro_pearl
Jun 28, 2000 (12:13 am)
Mercedes-Benz initiated a Displacement-Badging system, but in 1994, so the "e320, e420, e430, e55, s300, s320, s420, maybe s430, s500, s560, s600 and don't get me started on the, C, ML, SL" don't count.
The 300e switched to a 3.2L engine in 1993, but retained the "300" part of the name, and the 400e NEVER had a 4.0L V8 engine.
As you can see, the Mercedes-Benz model line roughly followed displacement-badging, but not to the letter. They didn't change to strictly following this system until 1994.
Mercedes-Benz will also break from this system in 2001, when the V12 engine returns. The car will be called the S600, but have a 5.8L engine. Personally, I think this is a good thing; I think S580 sounds retarted.
What I was getting at in my post was that Lexus was the first to use the displacement-badging system, and stick to it 100%.
BTW, since I can smell all of you Mercedes-Benz lovers heating up, I am not saying that Mercedes-Benz copied the Lexus system.
#322 of 24726 OMG, talk about nitpicky
Jun 28, 2000 (12:21 am)
MB and BMW started it overall....PERIOD Not Lexus, Infiniti, or Acura
#323 of 24726 quattro_pearl
Jun 28, 2000 (12:22 am)
Not being picky. Just the facts, man.
Jun 28, 2000 (1:34 am)
Whoever used it first it is a mistake. It's too bright.
Who imitates a Jaguar except Jaguar?
#326 of 24726 Camry parts
Jun 28, 2000 (1:41 am)
There are no Camry parts in an LS400. Have you driven one? There are 24% Camry parts in an ES300.
Regarding the only reason people drive Lexus is because it is cheap and imitation:
1. People who care about being cheap don't buy 55k cars.
2. Lexus build quality has been industry standard for 10 years. All the complaining about
Lexus copying is great but Mercedes should copy
Lexus build quality (not going to happen).
Jun 28, 2000 (1:46 am)
but not build quality. No magazines say, WOW that car was as solid as a Lexus or the interior reminded me of a Lexus.
Jun 28, 2000 (2:43 am)
#330 of 24726 Whoops! x 2
Jun 28, 2000 (2:45 am)