High End Luxury Cars

24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#24596 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [houdini1] by lexusguy Jun 04, 2008 (1:35 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 12:05 pm) Sometime in the next few months I will be buying a new car. Right now my candidates are: 1 or 2 year old LS 430 or 460, Acura RL, and though I know little about it there is something about the Hyundai Genesis that fascinates me. The best year to get for an LS430 is a 2004. If you're looking in the full size lux class, I think the Acura RL would probably be too small. It's really cramped compared to an LS, and also just not a great car. The A6 and M are both more comfortable, more spacious, and much better to drive. I would suggest considering a certified used Jaguar XJ, possibly a VP depending on how much room you want in the back. As for the Genesis, I think I'd rather have the real thing (LS460) than the imitation. Replies to this message: houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 2:12 pm) bmlexus (Jun 04, 2008 4:28 pm) houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm) houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 4:03 am) lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 8:27 am) houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 11:39 am)
#24597 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [lexusguy] by houdini1 Jun 04, 2008 (2:12 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 04, 2008 1:35 pm) I respect your opinions but there is just something about the RL that I like. I have owned several Acuras in the past with no disappointments. The LS is at the top of my list and I will reserve judgment on the Genesis until I can drive one. The dealership is the problem there. Replies to this message: bmlexus (Jun 04, 2008 4:28 pm) houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm)
#24598 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [houdini1] by bmlexus Jun 04, 2008 (4:28 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 2:12 pm) The LS is at the top of my list and I will reserve judgment on the Genesis until I can drive one. The dealership is the problem there With the LS you will probably be happy for a long long time. Replies to this message: houdini1 (Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm)
#24599 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [bmlexus] by houdini1 Jun 04, 2008 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: bmlexus (Jun 04, 2008 4:28 pm) Thanks bmlexus. The LS is probably what I will end up with.
#24600 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [lexusguy] by houdini1 Jun 06, 2008 (4:03 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 04, 2008 1:35 pm) I notice that on another board you are seriously considering buying an S6. My question is have you driven one of them and for any extended period of time? If so, what are the upsides and the downsides? Your impressions of course. In a recent comparison on Edmunds, it was noted that the A6 was extremely uncomfortable and that "the ride could not get much worse". This was an A6 but I would imagine that the S6's ride would be even more harsh. The A6 tied for 3rd (last) with Merc, behind the XF and BMW. Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 8:27 am) houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 11:39 am)
#24601 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [houdini1] by lexusguy Jun 06, 2008 (8:27 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 4:03 am) In a recent comparison on Edmunds, it was noted that the A6 was extremely uncomfortable and that "the ride could not get much worse". This was an A6 but I would imagine that the S6's ride would be even more harsh. When Edmunds declared the Lexus GS430 "Japan's best sports sedan", their comparison tests lost all credibility with me. That said, the XF SV8 is a brilliant car, and I would take one over a 5, E, or A6 4.2. The S6 though is a different matter. The ride is firm but not overly harsh, and the seats are very comfortable. It's very good around town and exceptional on the highway, and can be quite fun to drive, though its not as playful as a 5 or M. Replies to this message: houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 11:39 am)
#24602 of 24685 Effect of Economy/Gas on V8 Luxury cars by stkntraffic Jun 06, 2008 (9:56 am)
I know sales of new and used pickups and full-size SUV's are in the crapper these days. Reading the Real-World Trade-ins forum is pretty depressing when people find out what their trucks are worth. Just wondering if the same effect has been felt in the V8 luxury market or not. And if so, would it be a good time for a savvy buyer to get a good deal on a slightly used model? I'm thinking Japanese or German. Any thoughts? Replies to this message: houdini1 (Jun 06, 2008 10:22 am) lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 10:29 am) stkntraffic (Jun 06, 2008 11:57 am) lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 3:31 pm) houdini1 (Jun 07, 2008 6:37 am) and 1 more...
#24603 of 24685 Re: Effect of Economy/Gas on V8 Luxury cars [stkntraffic] by houdini1 Jun 06, 2008 (10:22 am)
Replying to: stkntraffic (Jun 06, 2008 9:56 am) I have had the same thoughts as you and I think this would be a good strategy if you are very careful. Obviously you would not want one as a daily driver where you had to drive it 30 or 40 thousand miles a year. I currently have a 2000 LX that still looks and drives like new but was thinking it may be a good time to get a newer one. It does not seem that the new LX 570 is being discounted much, if any, so probably smarter to go for an 05,06, or 07. This thing is a horse, very comfortable and we only drive it 5 or 6 thousand miles a year so gas doesn't kill us. You simply cannot beat it for versatility, etc. Your best bet would be to find an individual that has "panicked" and wants to dump one. I am sure they are out there.
#24604 of 24685 Re: Effect of Economy/Gas on V8 Luxury cars [stkntraffic] by lexusguy Jun 06, 2008 (10:29 am)
Replying to: stkntraffic (Jun 06, 2008 9:56 am) Just wondering if the same effect has been felt in the V8 luxury market or not. And if so, would it be a good time for a savvy buyer to get a good deal on a slightly used model? I'm thinking Japanese or German. Any thoughts? I think now is a great time to buy a lightly used V8 luxury sedan. A new M45 is about $7K more than an M35, and a new A6 4.2 costs a good $10K more than the 3.2. When you look at the used market though, those differences are basically erased. If you're looking for something a bit bigger, a CPO Jaguar XJR is an absolute bargain. You can get very low mileage '05 examples in the low $30s. Replies to this message: stkntraffic (Jun 06, 2008 11:57 am) lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 3:31 pm) houdini1 (Jun 07, 2008 6:37 am) lexusguy (Jun 07, 2008 11:34 am)
#24605 of 24685 Re: Looking to Buy in the next Few Months [lexusguy] by houdini1 Jun 06, 2008 (11:39 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jun 06, 2008 8:27 am) When Edmunds declared the Lexus GS430 "Japan's best sports sedan", their comparison tests lost all credibility with me This had just the opposite effect on me. Different strokes.