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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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I guess that's the next test by drfill
Apr 29, 2007 (4:48 am)
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Mercedes CL vs. Lexus LS600hL.
 
   They're both about the same speed.
 
  DrFill
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Re: I guess that's the next test [drfill] by ms09
Apr 29, 2007 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 29, 2007 4:48 am)

they might be the same speed but both r different cars.
 
LS is a family car, but u can't be comfortable in a CL class with 4 persons.
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Re: I guess that's the next test [drfill] by anthonyp
Apr 30, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 29, 2007 4:48 am)

In Your Dreams----Tony
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Looking into XJ8 - Reliability? by mstender
May 01, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Hi, I am a newby in this forum and would appreciate some advice or help.
I am looking into a 2002 or 2003 XJ8 either Sport or VDP but I am little bit worried about reliability and cost of repair/service. Can anybody give me some advice? I currently have two MB's (C280, ML350) and did not really have any problems. How does the Jag compare? How are the Jaguar dealers in terms of their service? So far my experience with MB had been great but I heard from other people who got srewed.
I saw a few XJ from 2002/3 with 30-50000 miles in price range of $20-24000. Does that seem reasonable? Also, do you guys recommend to get one with the Jaguar certified warranty?
Can anybody recommend a good Jag dealer in New England (I live in the Danbury area)?
 
I would appreciate any comments, help or advice!
 
Thanks, Matt
 
You can also email me: matthes_usyahoo.com
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Re: Looking into XJ8 - Reliability? [mstender] by tagman
May 01, 2007 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: mstender (May 01, 2007 10:35 am)

If you can swing it, I would recommend that you move forward in time to the 2004 or newer XJ instead of the '03 or older. The statistics are quite different with regards to reliability. The '04 is the new generation aluminum Jag and weighs in at a featherlight 3700 - 3800 pounds, or so, depending upon particulars, so it will offer more spirited performance with its 300 hp engine. The reliability is better with the newer generation, and the '05 is even better than the '04. Your budget will determine if you can swing this or not, of course. Whatever you do, get all the warranty you can, no matter what.
 
I'm located in California, so local dealers and local pricing for New England is something I shouldn't comment on.
 
Good luck.
 
TagMan
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Re: Looking into XJ8 - Reliability? [mstender] by lexusguy
May 01, 2007 (10:52 pm)
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Replying to: mstender (May 01, 2007 10:35 am)

I saw a few XJ from 2002/3 with 30-50000 miles in price range of $20-24000. Does that seem reasonable? Also, do you guys recommend to get one with the Jaguar certified warranty?
 
The average retail price of '02-'03 XJs in the NE area seems to be around $25K, so the prices you saw seem to be at least reasonable, if not bargains. I agree with tag that if you can afford to spend around $28-32K for an '04, you'll get a much better car.
 
I've owned a '96 XJ-S, '98 XK8 and '00 XKR, and currently own a new XK. In my experience, each Jag has been much better and much more reliable than the last. The '00 was largely trouble free until it started to have transmission issues. A certified warranty is definitely a good idea. You don't want to be stuck with a $3K repair bill.
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Re: Looking into XJ8 - Reliability? [lexusguy] by mstender
May 02, 2007 (6:28 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (May 01, 2007 10:52 pm)

Thanks for the info TagMan and lexusguy!
Is the '04 really so much better of a car overall, not only in terms of its reliability?
The '03 XJs that I looked at were alll really nicely equiped (heated seats, premium sound, CD changer etc. plus VDP interior) whereas some of the '04 that I found in a reasonable price range seem to have more of a basic equipment. It seems like the '04 VDPs go for a little higher than $32K. How is the rear leg room in the short wheel base '04?
 
Thanks,
 
Matt
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Question by carnaught
May 02, 2007 (6:53 am)
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How do you 2004 or newer XJ owners find the insurance rates? The lighter aluminum build is a mixed blessing in that the repair bills for body damge should be much higher.
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Re: Question [carnaught] by tagman
May 02, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (May 02, 2007 6:53 am)

How do you 2004 or newer XJ owners find the insurance rates? The lighter aluminum build is a mixed blessing in that the repair bills for body damge should be much higher.
 
The insurance rates are no different than for any other car in the price range. If the car gets some body damage, you would pay your deductible and the rest is on the insurance company. So, in the end, the rates and deductible make everything the same. It's a non-issue.
 
TagMan
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Re: Looking into XJ8 - Reliability? [mstender] by lexusguy
May 02, 2007 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: mstender (May 02, 2007 6:28 am)

Is the '04 really so much better of a car overall, not only in terms of its reliability?
The '03 XJs that I looked at were alll really nicely equiped (heated seats, premium sound, CD changer etc. plus VDP interior) whereas some of the '04 that I found in a reasonable price range seem to have more of a basic equipment. It seems like the '04 VDPs go for a little higher than $32K. How is the rear leg room in the short wheel base '04?

 
The roots of the '03 date back to the 1986 "XJ40" series XJ6. The car was updated several times inside and out, but like the last gen XK, its bones are very old. The '04 is the first complete redesign of the XJ since '86. The new car is a world apart from the old one. Take one for a drive.

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