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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: anthonyp (Apr 21, 2007 1:43 pm) You are simply one of the nicest people I have ever had the pleasure of interacting with.  Enjoy your beautiful A8, an example of German engineering at its very best! 
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Howard's was the first of a long string of posts I moved. He certainly was not the only one off-topic, not by a long shot. And there are other posts still here that aren't on topic, but there's only so much time in a day. I don't want anyone to read my "posts moved" message as having "gotten" Howard. (I "get" Howard offline when he needs getting.  ) The link to the moved posts just happens to be his. Does anyone have any comment on something resembling a topical vehicle??  
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Replying to: pat (Apr 21, 2007 2:27 pm) "... and still is.
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Replying to: hpowders (Apr 21, 2007 3:58 pm) But I think Tony may have misunderstood so I wanted to make sure no one else did.
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Replying to: pat (Apr 22, 2007 6:37 am) Gosh, Pat... How dare you single out Hpowders like that and lay into him so harshly for all that off-topic discussion!! You should be ashamed of yourself!! And to think I used to like you!! Seriously though, I was surprised that Tony might have misunderstood, but rest assured your stellar reputation is still intact, and it was certainly nice of you to make sure that your forum exchange with those posts was understood by all. It reflects that that's the kind of good person you really are. (underneath that crusty exterior, of course ) TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 22, 2007 10:44 am) Again I ask - does anyone want to talk about any of the topical vehicles?? (Thanks tagman.) |
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Replying to: pat (Apr 22, 2007 6:37 am) On to the higher end of our running discussion, I received an additional response from Bentley...I had thought about them but got the Audi insted... `The Pride of Crewe``The Bentley Brooklands....Four seat coupe ..530 hp engine...Imperious,unmistakable, and only 550 examples in it`s lifetime...Please join us April 17.....I couldn`t as I got home too late.. What I can see of it, it looks good, and I would think enjoyable in a setting like the up`scale` beaches of the world, unlike where I think a ls460h would fit in--big city for it-- Further I would worry myself sick that it would get dented, so that would take the fun out of it for me..Tony |
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(I have also posted this on the Luxury Lounge forum.) You guys have just got to read this article on the LS600hL. It will completely support the criticism I have posted about this car in the past. In fact, the results show that the LS600hL is worse than I had anticipated in a number of areas. I thought the fuel economy would be a little better than it is likely to be rated. Only 1 city MPG better than the LS460 and only 2 city MPG better than the LS460L and 5 HWY MPG WORSE than the LS460 and LS460L. This means that the average fuel economy of the LS600hL hybrid sedan will be WORSE than its LS460 brothers. Add to that the fact that the acceleration of the LS600hL is one tenth of a second SLOWER than the LS460 and LS460L. It weighs in at an obese 887 lbs. more than the LS460L! The LS600hL V-8 delivers only 9 more HP than the LS460 and LS460L V-8!! With the added electric motors, the total HP is only 438, and with that extra 887 lbs. of FAT, the car is ultimately SLOWER and burns MORE gas, not less. Those 887 lbs of AWD and hybrid electronics FAT, come at a ridiculous price tag. The test car priced in at $111,715. And there's more to getting less. It seems the trunk size of this LS600hL is 35% SMALLER than the trunk in its 460 brothers, at a mere 11.7 cubic feet. Exclusive you might think? Think again. Beyond the powertrain fat, there is essentially no option that can't be ordered on the LS460L. God bless Edmunds for telling the truth about this vehicle! Read about it for yourself here: link title Some of you may not like this, but most of you will. And... I am once again very glad that ljflx got the LS460L instead of waiting in line to waste his money on an LS600hL. Of course he could have gotten the Mercedes S600, but that's another discussion. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 22, 2007 9:14 pm)
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