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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#24480 of 24700 Re: I think a Hybrid pack weighs more than a turbocharger [brightness04] by tagman Apr 20, 2007 (6:14 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Apr 20, 2007 5:26 pm) 21mpg is not all that bad. It translates to 570 gallons in 12k miles.   Remember, next year hybrids won't rate as high.   Guess what? My wife's XJ Vanden Plas has an EPA rating of 18 / 27 ! The standard XJ gets 18 / 28 !   And the amazing thing is that huge Vanden Plas only weighs a little more than a 3-series, because of it's advanced aluminum bodywork.... so at that ultra low weight, the 300 HP is very quick. No hybrid, no diesel... just low weight.   So, weight is another part of the answer, IMO.   I also learned that low weight is very efficient with the recent Lotus Elise, at less than 1 ton.   TagMan Replies to this message: brightness04 (Apr 20, 2007 6:38 pm)
#24481 of 24700 Re: I think a Hybrid pack weighs more than a turbocharger [tagman] by brightness04 Apr 20, 2007 (6:38 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Apr 20, 2007 6:14 pm) Absolutely! Low weight helps. It helps handling too. OTOH, I'm not sure how many people are into lightweight HELC. Rolls and MB kinda inculcated consumers about what a burley tank HELC's ought to be.
#24486 of 24700 New place for a Lexus 600h discussion by drfill Apr 20, 2007 (7:56 pm)
As well as other Toyota Hybrids.      http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f12fe69/0       Future Toyota Hybrids. Where are they now. Where are they going. How can they get there. Prius. Camry. Lexus 450h and 600h. And beyond. Check it out!        DrFill

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