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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 12:58 pm) The EX, or XL (Suburban) sized models don't need to fold flat. They essentially don't have to switch back and forth between third row and/or cargo space. They've got BOTH. I had a Denali XL for a while, until I just plain couldn't stand the unbelievable amount of service issues, and most of the time we kept all three rows of seats up and still had tons of cargo space. When the more typical-sized SUV has to fold the third row to gain cargo area, it should at least be easy and functional, IMO. The best SUV at a bargain price, IMO, is still the Honda Pilot. The best mid-priced SUV is the Acura MDX. The best high-end SUV at any price... well, that would create some debate here.... between Range Rover, Mercedes GL, Audi Q7, BMW X5, Escalade, and Lexus LX. My personal pick is the Range Rover for 5 passengers, and the Mercedes GL for 7 passengers. Somehow, as much as I love Porsche, I can't seem to warm up to the Cayenne. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 1:41 pm) As far as the HELC-type SUV's -- I would lean towards the GL and LX. Wife's got the new ML (the GL's smaller sibling)and we love it. The Porsche SUV just looks strange to me. Land Rover -- that's a question mark. I've sat in them a couple of times and the interior seems a little flimsy. Anecdotal evidence around here suggests that it is not very reliable, either. |
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Looks like the gang is still at it. Not going to elaborate on it at all. I've been out of the country to do a "world tour", just back in time for the Masters. What's up with DCX and the Kirk Kerkorian deal? Will it really happen? Will Kerkorian finally get to be the head honcho at a car company, as it would be much to the dissatifaction to the brass of GM as he continually threw money at them to raise his interest in the company, only to have himself shuttered again? And to boot, he still didn't get Wagoner fired. And more to the point: Will this free up MB to explore more oppurtunities within the company? And will KK's $4-5bil be enough to suit Dr.K? BTW, since the Chrysler news took up so much of the headlines, Ford is again on the prowl to unload Jaguar COMPLETELY, not in pieces. The are meeting with the private sector investors to complete a deal worth billions. Where this leaves the fabulous new concepts is unknown. |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 1:41 pm) But after a drive of the new Saturn OUTLOOK, I'm convinced that it has taken number one in it's class. Sure it is weighty, but the smooth ride and competent handling makes up for that. But the others are good choices. |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 1:41 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2007 11:40 pm)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Apr 06, 2007 5:13 pm) The Pilot and MDX do not drive anything alike, as you would have expected them to, perhaps. I know first hand. Last Christmas, I bought my wife a Pilot and it didn't last but a few weeks before I had to trade it in on the MDX which she has liked ever since. Not to say the Pilot was bad. It wasn't bad. It was pretty darned good in fact. But the Acura MDX is truly smoother and quieter and has all the latest bells and whistles... you know Bluetooth, voice-command navigation, DVD rear-entertainment, and auto-everything. They definately put more sound-deadening material in the Acura than in the Honda. The all new MDX is even better than the previous one. In fact, you should read the reviews. The "Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive", or whatever they call it, is supposedly nothing short of amazing. I want to try it for myself, because I remember one of the very first reviews said that "Driving the '08 MDX is as though the hand of God is holding the vehicle to the road". Now THAT is quite a testimonial for a good handling vehicle, my friend. TagMan
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I've got a serious problem!!  For the Mets to go to Atlanta, in their home opener, and just whup that A$# by 10 runs, people are booin', throwin' stuff on the field in anger, the worst beating in Franchise history for a Home Opener.....that ain't right! That ain't right!  DrFill |
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Replying to: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 6:32 pm) Call me cynical, but that's a classic cop-out line when the scribe has nothing good to say. "The hand of God" holds the vehicle to the road _via gravity_, just like it holds a UPS delivery truck to the road. It reminds me of the joke about the 2.8 MB V6, when it was introduced, was proclaimed the best V6 from MB . . . well, dah, it was the only V6 from MB at the time. While I have not tried the new MDX first-hand yet, the previous-generation MDX drove very "ponderously."
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Replying to: brightness04 (Apr 06, 2007 9:11 pm) Well if you buy any SUV for driving dynamics you're an idiot, but I still say the Infiniti FX is "the best of the worst" as it were, with perhaps the X5 as number two. The Cayenne didn't do anything for me, sure if you stuff enough V8 in the front its fast, but the Porsche of SUVs? If it didn't have all that off-road gear perhaps it could've been, but what on earth would Cayenne owners do if they couldn't take their babies rock crawling? It will be interesting to see if sales pick up post-refresh after they dropped off the face of the earth last year. The RR is by far the most attractive full size lux-ute, but its also the one I'm least likely to buy. A friend had his out of commission sitting at the dealer for a month. No thanks.
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