High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#24395 of 24697 That's my true Achilles Heel! by drfill Apr 05, 2007 (7:44 pm)
LOL! I'll fight you on Toyota/Lexus issues, but the Mets are my hometown club. They're like my children. I can't bear to see them hurt. Really causes issues. I'm surprised they were so respectful during the flag-raising before the Opener. I'd take it personal. Willie is a good leader for times like that. Delgado and Wright had some kind words. As you know, I am not so forgiving. DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 8:22 pm)
#24396 of 24697 Re: That's my true Achilles Heel! [drfill] by tagman Apr 05, 2007 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 7:44 pm) Like the good D-man said, plenty of games to go this season... let's see what they can do. I personally think this HP thing is getting out of hand. Mercedes needs to push HP, to justify their pricing, but Lexus plays many instruments well, and doesn't need to get sucked into a game Mercedes can't afford to lose. You are griping about Mercedes playing up the horsepower, when Lexus played up that eight-speed transmission? Talk about trying to one-up. TagMan
#24397 of 24697 Same thing by drfill Apr 05, 2007 (8:32 pm)
How far do you go before you are CVT? At least there is an end in sight. These aren't bicycles! Mercedes will be at 1000HP within a decade. Por que? DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 8:47 pm)
#24398 of 24697 Re: Same thing [drfill] by tagman Apr 05, 2007 (8:47 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm) Personally, I think we're at the end of the gas ICE HP war. Only technology, such as hybrid, will add power to the gas ICE, but it is early to see what will happen with the diesels when they jump in soon. Dewey reports that there will already be twin turbos added to the BMW diesel, and this is just the beginning. Due to the diesel's massive torque, it will be new territory to see what happens. I really do think that "efficiency" will be a key part of the equation in the near future. "Efficiency" as it relates to power and to fuel consumption. TagMan
#24399 of 24697 Lexus gets it right by lexusguy Apr 05, 2007 (11:40 pm)
I'm very impressed with the interior of the new LX, I think its now best in class. Certainly far superior to the GL at least. Replies to this message: gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 6:07 am) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 6:34 am) gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 7:56 am) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 8:35 am) and 2 more... brightness04 (Apr 06, 2007 5:15 pm) syswei (Apr 07, 2007 3:19 am) houdini1 (Apr 08, 2007 5:34 am)
#24400 of 24697 Re: Lexus gets it right [lexusguy] by gteach26 Apr 06, 2007 (6:07 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2007 11:40 pm) Ditto... great looking interior. The outside of this 70K beast is pretty nice too. This trucks's just what I was looking for.. an LS460 on stilts. Now I need to work on justifying spending the extra $$ when a Ford Expedition gives me more room and a better third row at a 40% price cut.... I'm sure I can convince myself it's worth it after a test drive!!! Those lexus vehicles are down right intoxicating.
#24401 of 24697 Re: D-man [drfill] by designman Apr 06, 2007 (6:12 am)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 7:24 pm) The Cardinals got SOOO lucky last year that Pedro and El Duque got hurt just before the NLCS. IIRC it wasn't the pitching but hitting that let them down. They had their chances.
#24402 of 24697 Re: One More Ting! [tagman] by designman Apr 06, 2007 (6:16 am)
Replying to: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 7:31 pm) Do you remember last season's demonstration by the Mets, in the championship series, of some of the worst sportsmanship baseball has ever seen! ???? I'm drawing a blank. Refresh my memory. Maybe it wasn't flagrant enough for a New Yorker to notice? (Actually I am very keen on sportsmanship issues and CAN'T STAND the end zone tango and such.)
#24403 of 24697 Re: Lexus gets it right [lexusguy] by tagman Apr 06, 2007 (6:34 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2007 11:40 pm) Lexusguy, Thanks for the pic. It looks good to me also, at least from the photo. The ONLY thing that kept my wife form owning the LX470 was those Mickey Mouse flip-flop third-row seats. If they got them to fold flat this time, I'll look at the new LX570. BUT... A BLUETEC DIESEL GL (the '08 VISION model) does seem more compelling at this point. TagMan Replies to this message: gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 7:56 am) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 8:35 am) houdini1 (Apr 06, 2007 12:47 pm) and 1 more...
#24404 of 24697 Re: Lexus gets it right [tagman] by gteach26 Apr 06, 2007 (7:56 am)
Replying to: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 6:34 am) The seats don't fold flat -- even on this new version. The design seems to have been improved through. The seats fold up electronically and are locked in position on the sides -- they almost seem like part of the sides of the truck when folded up-- very unobtrusive, but still not completely hidden for 100% cargo usage. I can't understand why they can't redesign the suspension somehow to make 'em fold flat like other SUV makers have been able to do. Funny you mentioned the "mickey mouse ears" thing -- that's EXACTLY what I thought of the 470's third row set up. Here are some more pics from every angle.... http://www.autoblog.com/photos/lexus-lx570/ Replies to this message: tagman (Apr 06, 2007 8:35 am) houdini1 (Apr 06, 2007 12:47 pm) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 12:52 pm)