High End Luxury Cars

24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#24393 of 24697 Re: One More Ting! [designman] by tagman Apr 05, 2007 (7:31 pm)
Replying to: designman (Apr 05, 2007 7:13 pm) D-Man, Do you remember last season's demonstration by the Mets, in the championship series, of some of the worst sportsmanship baseball has ever seen! And to think I used to be a Mets fan in the late 60's... only to be rewarded 40 years later with THAT kind of pitiful behavior. I know the Doc loves 'em... and he has every right... but gosh, where do they get off acting like that? They never gave the Cards the time of day, let alone the real credit that they deserved... They treated 'em like a bunch of lucky hicks. Lucky? No way! ...David Eckstein was freakin' amazing! As were the rest of them! And I'm not even a Cards fan, but I'll give 'em the credit they deserved. They EARNED that title, and the Mets didn't. Mets fans are still crying about it like a bunch of whining babies. Sorriest bunch of poor sports I've ever seen. (Don't bust a gasket, Doc... I'm havin a little fun with ya!) TagMan Replies to this message: designman (Apr 06, 2007 6:16 am)
#24394 of 24697 Tag by drfill Apr 05, 2007 (7:37 pm)
Two Tings! First Ting: It's not like Lexus lied to us, like Ford will do with tow ratings. 60Hp doesn't sound like much to balance out AWD and the extra std. equipment, but hybrids tend to be torque monsters, so a 4.9 time is doable. Combined MPG is said to be 21. And my #2: I would've liked 450, just because. Doesn't that Audi V10 have 450? Torque may be the key to this machine. I personally think this HP thing is getting out of hand. Mercedes needs to push HP, to justify their pricing, but Lexus plays many instruments well, and doesn't need to get sucked into a game Mercedes can't afford to lose. A five second car is great. Can't throw stones at that. And it's good for the environment. Can those protesters at the NYIAS look any dumber? Protesting Toyota on environmental issues is like complimenting Bush on his foreign policy! DrFill
#24395 of 24697 That's my true Achilles Heel! by drfill Apr 05, 2007 (7:44 pm)
LOL! I'll fight you on Toyota/Lexus issues, but the Mets are my hometown club. They're like my children. I can't bear to see them hurt. Really causes issues. I'm surprised they were so respectful during the flag-raising before the Opener. I'd take it personal. Willie is a good leader for times like that. Delgado and Wright had some kind words. As you know, I am not so forgiving. DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 8:22 pm)
#24396 of 24697 Re: That's my true Achilles Heel! [drfill] by tagman Apr 05, 2007 (8:22 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 7:44 pm) Like the good D-man said, plenty of games to go this season... let's see what they can do. I personally think this HP thing is getting out of hand. Mercedes needs to push HP, to justify their pricing, but Lexus plays many instruments well, and doesn't need to get sucked into a game Mercedes can't afford to lose. You are griping about Mercedes playing up the horsepower, when Lexus played up that eight-speed transmission? Talk about trying to one-up. TagMan
#24397 of 24697 Same thing by drfill Apr 05, 2007 (8:32 pm)
How far do you go before you are CVT? At least there is an end in sight. These aren't bicycles! Mercedes will be at 1000HP within a decade. Por que? DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 8:47 pm)
#24398 of 24697 Re: Same thing [drfill] by tagman Apr 05, 2007 (8:47 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm) Personally, I think we're at the end of the gas ICE HP war. Only technology, such as hybrid, will add power to the gas ICE, but it is early to see what will happen with the diesels when they jump in soon. Dewey reports that there will already be twin turbos added to the BMW diesel, and this is just the beginning. Due to the diesel's massive torque, it will be new territory to see what happens. I really do think that "efficiency" will be a key part of the equation in the near future. "Efficiency" as it relates to power and to fuel consumption. TagMan
#24399 of 24697 Lexus gets it right by lexusguy Apr 05, 2007 (11:40 pm)
I'm very impressed with the interior of the new LX, I think its now best in class. Certainly far superior to the GL at least. Replies to this message: gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 6:07 am) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 6:34 am) gteach26 (Apr 06, 2007 7:56 am) tagman (Apr 06, 2007 8:35 am) and 2 more... brightness04 (Apr 06, 2007 5:15 pm) syswei (Apr 07, 2007 3:19 am) houdini1 (Apr 08, 2007 5:34 am)
#24400 of 24697 Re: Lexus gets it right [lexusguy] by gteach26 Apr 06, 2007 (6:07 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Apr 05, 2007 11:40 pm) Ditto... great looking interior. The outside of this 70K beast is pretty nice too. This trucks's just what I was looking for.. an LS460 on stilts. Now I need to work on justifying spending the extra $$ when a Ford Expedition gives me more room and a better third row at a 40% price cut.... I'm sure I can convince myself it's worth it after a test drive!!! Those lexus vehicles are down right intoxicating.
#24401 of 24697 Re: D-man [drfill] by designman Apr 06, 2007 (6:12 am)
Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 7:24 pm) The Cardinals got SOOO lucky last year that Pedro and El Duque got hurt just before the NLCS. IIRC it wasn't the pitching but hitting that let them down. They had their chances.
#24402 of 24697 Re: One More Ting! [tagman] by designman Apr 06, 2007 (6:16 am)
Replying to: tagman (Apr 05, 2007 7:31 pm) Do you remember last season's demonstration by the Mets, in the championship series, of some of the worst sportsmanship baseball has ever seen! ???? I'm drawing a blank. Refresh my memory. Maybe it wasn't flagrant enough for a New Yorker to notice? (Actually I am very keen on sportsmanship issues and CAN'T STAND the end zone tango and such.)