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24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 8:11 am)  Now on to your tings... World car is a terrific award, and credit where credit is due. The LS600hL will set new standards, IMO. An amazing car, no doubt. But, only 438 HP? How come? But...Yes you heard me, BUT... even though the LS600hL is a hybrid, it did NOT get the 2007 World Green Car award at the New York Auto Show. The car that received the 2007 World Green Car Award is a MERCEDES BENZ. That's right... The Mercedes E320 BlueTec DIESEL received the 2007 World Green Car Award. This car proves what is about to be the biggest surprise to hit the marketplace... namely the resurection of the diesel engine in the United States. As I've been saying, "A diesel revolution due to diesel evolution". The new tougher EPA fuel economy ratings for 2008 will strongly favor the diesels, but hammer the hybrids. Hybrids will be forced to "sell" the performance aspect of their system, while the diesels are already known for their massive torque and will become known as the "greenie" choice, and EPA champions of terrific fuel economy. Not to mention that they can burn bio-diesel, which will attract the American heartland. Get ready Doc... the war is about to start. In 2008, the diesel will start its ascention. And the announcement of the 2007 World Green Car Award is just the first shot over the bow of the hybrid boat.  Nice to hear from you! TagMan |
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 8:11 am) 
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DON'T GET ME STARTED!!!  The Cardinals got SOOO lucky last year that Pedro and El Duque got hurt just before the NLCS. There was no doubt then, as there is no doubt now, who is the best team in baseball! Cardinals got their receipt, burned their "Ace" to boot. I got an "Ace for ya! Even Joe Morgan said Carpenter can win without his best stuff. Ain't beatin' the Mets without his best stuff. That's ok! Another quallude....  DrFill
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Replying to: designman (Apr 05, 2007 7:13 pm) Do you remember last season's demonstration by the Mets, in the championship series, of some of the worst sportsmanship baseball has ever seen! And to think I used to be a Mets fan in the late 60's... only to be rewarded 40 years later with THAT kind of pitiful behavior. I know the Doc loves 'em... and he has every right... but gosh, where do they get off acting like that? They never gave the Cards the time of day, let alone the real credit that they deserved... They treated 'em like a bunch of lucky hicks. Lucky? No way! ...David Eckstein was freakin' amazing! As were the rest of them! And I'm not even a Cards fan, but I'll give 'em the credit they deserved. They EARNED that title, and the Mets didn't. Mets fans are still crying about it like a bunch of whining babies. Sorriest bunch of poor sports I've ever seen.  (Don't bust a gasket, Doc... I'm havin a little fun with ya!) TagMan
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Two Tings! First Ting: It's not like Lexus lied to us, like Ford will do with tow ratings. 60Hp doesn't sound like much to balance out AWD and the extra std. equipment, but hybrids tend to be torque monsters, so a 4.9 time is doable. Combined MPG is said to be 21. And my #2: I would've liked 450, just because. Doesn't that Audi V10 have 450? Torque may be the key to this machine. I personally think this HP thing is getting out of hand. Mercedes needs to push HP, to justify their pricing, but Lexus plays many instruments well, and doesn't need to get sucked into a game Mercedes can't afford to lose. A five second car is great. Can't throw stones at that. And it's good for the environment. Can those protesters at the NYIAS look any dumber? Protesting Toyota on environmental issues is like complimenting Bush on his foreign policy!  DrFill |
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LOL! I'll fight you on Toyota/Lexus issues, but the Mets are my hometown club. They're like my children. I can't bear to see them hurt. Really causes issues. I'm surprised they were so respectful during the flag-raising before the Opener. I'd take it personal. Willie is a good leader for times like that. Delgado and Wright had some kind words. As you know, I am not so forgiving. DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 7:44 pm) I personally think this HP thing is getting out of hand. Mercedes needs to push HP, to justify their pricing, but Lexus plays many instruments well, and doesn't need to get sucked into a game Mercedes can't afford to lose. You are griping about Mercedes playing up the horsepower, when Lexus played up that eight-speed transmission? Talk about trying to one-up. TagMan |
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How far do you go before you are CVT? At least there is an end in sight. These aren't bicycles! Mercedes will be at 1000HP within a decade. Por que? DrFill
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Replying to: drfill (Apr 05, 2007 8:32 pm) TagMan |
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I'm very impressed with the interior of the new LX, I think its now best in class. Certainly far superior to the GL at least. 
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