High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#24340 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey] by brightness04 Mar 25, 2007 (7:43 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:39 pm) Accruals is not cash flow. That's why I said cash flow is a more reliable indicator than revenue and profit numbers that take into account of "accruals." You are the one who said cash flows are unreliable because they fluctuate too much, not me. Please stop arguing against yourself
#24341 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [brightness04] by dewey Mar 25, 2007 (7:45 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:41 pm) As I said forget all the accural numbers. Just focus on BMW's healthy cash flows. Oh yes this years cash flows are healthy too! By the way Toytota has phenemonal accural numbers. And we all know those Toyota accountants all have halos on their heads while BMW accountants have horns on their heads. Amen! Nuff is Nuff. I am out of here. Replies to this message: brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:47 pm) dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:48 pm) brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:52 pm) kirstie_h (Mar 26, 2007 7:44 am) and 1 more...
#24342 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey] by brightness04 Mar 25, 2007 (7:47 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:45 pm) As I said forget all the accural numbers. Just focus on BMW's healthy cash flows. Hmm, now you want to toss away accruals, just like I suggested. BMW cash flow is down 13% according to the 2006 Annual Report. That's not healthy. By the way Toytota has phenemonal accural numbers. Toyota actually does account very conservatively. They expense R&D in the current year, and their residuals are below real life resale. Toyota has growing cash flow and liquid asset, as one would expect a company that is genuinely growing sales and profit without cooking books. Replies to this message: dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:48 pm) brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:52 pm) kirstie_h (Mar 26, 2007 7:44 am)
#24343 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [brightness04] by dewey Mar 25, 2007 (7:48 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:47 pm) What Free Cash Flow yield do you define as healthy? Despite the decline this years yield is amazing! Toyota actually does account very conservatively. They expense R&D in the current year, and their residuals are below real life resale. Toyota has growing cash flow and liquid asset, as one would expect a company that is genuinely growing sales and profit without cooking books. Amen again! Byebye Replies to this message: brightness04 (Mar 25, 2007 7:52 pm) kirstie_h (Mar 26, 2007 7:44 am)
#24344 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey] by brightness04 Mar 25, 2007 (7:52 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:48 pm) Cash flow should not decline as much as 13% in a year when the company is supposedly having nearly 9% sales and profit growth. Where did the money disappear into? Why aren't the customers paying? Signing up dead beats or signing up such sweet deals that they never are expected to pay in the full amount that is booked as sales and profit? This is such drivel! What a waste of time. Should have thought through that one before launching into an argument against yourself in terms of accruals vs. cash flow validation.
#24345 of 24700 Re: New M3 V8 weighs 33lbs less than outgoing I-6 [dewey] by kirstie_h HOST Mar 26, 2007 (7:44 am)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 25, 2007 7:48 pm) This is such drivel! What a waste of time. I could not agree more, as it is 1) completely off-topic, and 2) boring Let's say "byebye" to this conversation (this can be done concurrent with your reciprocal "byebyes" to dewey) and get back to discussing the high-end luxury vehicles (not the manufacturers, accounting, or leasing deals).