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You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#24210 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [dewey]
Mar 08, 2007 (7:03 pm)
Well you could be right, Dewey.
As a self-made retiree, I guess the challenge of iDrive helps prevent the deterioration of my non-regenerative brain cells.
I should try and preserve the 2 or 3 I have left!
Quite honestly, the iDrive is certainly not as difficult to use as the media have made it out to be.
Certainly though, when traveling to a different state or province in your case, having radio tuning embedded deeply within the bowels of iDrive is a bad idea. That's why I bring CD's with me when I travel across long distances.
On another note, I imagine the incredible results posted by BMW today has made you as proud of this great company as I am.
Absolutely brilliant management combined with the best performing vehicles across every segment BMW participates in, from ELPS to LPS to HELC to SUV's to touring vehicles, along with breathtaking Bangle styling has made BMW the envy of the automotive industry. Imagine raising the stock dividend over 9%!
Now if only BMW would divorce itself from that ridiculous little thing they call the "Mini."
#24211 of 24726 You mean ridiculously cool!
Mar 08, 2007 (8:44 pm)
A driving machine with style! No discounts in that corner of the showroom.
Wish BMW could duplicate that. BMWs get less appealing the higher you go.
#24212 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [hpowders]
Mar 09, 2007 (2:42 am)
"I should try and preserve the 2 or 3 (neurons) I have left!"
Be careful. When only one left, you will be levelled with the prime ministers and presidents of all countries No more BMWs to drive thereafter.
#24213 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [jlbl]
Mar 09, 2007 (4:34 am)
"When only one (neuron) left, you will be levelled with the prime ministers and presidents of all countries."
Yes I have noticed that the best-qualified, really smart people usually wind up as "advisors", rarely getting the top job.
Of course the CE of BMW, Herr Reithofer, proves to be a brilliant exception!
#24214 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [hpowders]
Mar 09, 2007 (6:26 am)
Hp, there is a 2008 BMW 5 series brochure posted on the "Luxury Performance Sedan" forum that you will like. Nice. See post #9193.
#24215 of 24726 BMW lauds sales prospects, but investors worry about U.S. incentives
Mar 09, 2007 (6:36 am)
"Incentives stand at an average of $4,125 per vehicle, which is about 60 percent higher compared to Mercedes ($2,573) and Audi ($2,607). Most of these discounts are related to BMW's active move into competitive lease deals," the report said.
#24216 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [houdini1]
Mar 09, 2007 (7:00 am)
Thanks. I did see the brochure. To my eyes, the 2008 interior looks pretty much like what they are offering now, which to me means drab and boring.
3 BMW's. Pretty much the same interior. The only difference is the wood strip gets wider as one proceeds up the price ladder!
BMW is supposedly looking over their shoulder at Audi.
Apparently, they are not too worried.
#24217 of 24726 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [hpowders]
Mar 09, 2007 (7:26 am)
Audi sales are still a tiny fraction of BMW's, especially at the 5 and 7 level. At least in this market anyway. In Europe you can bet BMW is very worried about Audi. In the states Audi still needs to work on their marketing, especially on the A6 and A8. Their rapidly expanding lineup is great, but they need the core models to sell, first.
Mar 09, 2007 (8:11 am)
I'm just not as worried about BMW as some of you suggest. While Lexus and even Audi and Mercedes will take a little bite out of BMW, BMW will bite back hard with newer models, performance enhancements, and innovative technology.
The BMW interiors haven't stopped buyers, and the X5 is an example of the direction BMW interiors can take. People like the focus on performance and handling, regardless of what some have posted recently, and BMW delivers in spades.
They are leaders in design as well. Just look how BMW shook the world with their recent designs, and nearly everyone paid attention and many followed, even Lexus.
BMW's engines are some of the best on the planet.
Dramatic styling coupled with invigorating performance makes a great formula.
I'd sure love to have their upcoming 335i twin-turbo retractible hardtop convertible.
Throw in the towel regarding BMW? No way. Not me!
#24219 of 24726 Re: Breaking News [blkhemi]
Mar 09, 2007 (8:31 am)
So packaging, as you say it, has everything to do with why MB stopped using I6 designs in the early '90's. So the 96-'03 I-6 TurboDiesel was not an inline design. Your posts are getting more irratic by the minute . . . Hope this quick tutorial helps.
The 96-03 turbodiesel simply had an old design. The first modern production MB V6 was put into 1998 C280 gasoline car about a decade ago. The decision to switch from I6 to V6 for packaging was made in the early 90's; it took years to work out an entirely new engine design. While I'm willing and eager to learn something new every day, considering the relative knowledge base involved between the two of us, I don't think gratuitous personal insults helps your argument.
Sorry to hear that, but you must adhere to the strict mainatenance guidelines set forth by BMW in order to acheive maximum longevity out of the engine.
I changed oil every 3000 miles at the dealership. There was no free maintenance program back then.
Mabye that's why the Toyota 3.0L V6 never has this problem, oh wait, I think it does in SOME cases, not all.
Regardless whether Toyota did or did not, how does that help with your argument regarding BMW easily lasting 200k miles? For what it's worth, one of my two 5 series also had a complete transmission breakdown shortly after 100k miles.