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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: pat (Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm) TagMan |
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I posted this on the Luxury Lounge forum, but I just know that hpowders, Dewey, and others will appreciate this. "German automaker Bayerische Motoren Werke AG is the world’s largest luxury automaker and the company has said in a statement that its profit rose 28 percent to a record..." link title TagMan
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In post 24196... the words "For HELC, cargo space, seat count and handling only need to be "adequate" should have been italicized, as I intended to display brightness's previous statement. Those words are not my own, nor do I agree with them. If the host can italicize them, I would appreciate it. TagMan |
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Replying to: pat (Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 08, 2007 2:49 pm) Handling is a characteristic of ALL cars, HELC included. The importance is another matter, as Pat pointed out. Here is his post # 24182: HELC is not about handling. Read the tagline of the forum. In post 24194 brightness stated: For HELC, cargo space, seat count and handling only need to be "adequate," This time, brightness dictated the importance level of handling is that it only needs to be "adequate". Again, as Pat pointed out, to each his own. So, I'm sorry, but brightness did indeed first say that handling had no relevance, and then he said it only needed to be "adequate". Both his posts contradicted himself, and both of his posts are contrary to the idea of each person setting his own priorities for the characteristic of handling, which does indeed exist on a HELC, contrary to his first post. TagMan |
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 08, 2007 11:58 am) 
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 08, 2007 2:43 pm) I don't know if this would have been possible without the direct participation of Dewey and me.  PS: Interesting and to the point: BMW is looking over their shoulder at Audi and I don't blame them.  The perfect vehicle for me would have BMW handling with an Audi interior and a refreshingly normal push button radio! 
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Replying to: hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 4:03 pm) Sorry I wholeheartedly disagree with you there. A normal push button radio sounds far too radical and simple to me. I kind of like having my brain teased by idrive. At least it excercises my mind and keeps my brain young
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 05, 2007 8:57 pm) There were roadsters back in 88 that were superior to the M3. My point was that a rude and crude auto like like the 88 M3 was a wonder to behold especially when you can use it to go to the track and in the next hour pick up the kids and go to the store for groceries. Try doing that with an Ariel Atom. |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 8:35 pm) As with any good thing, why change it. BMW has been the kings of handling for years. Why? A simple 4-strut suspension that only God knows how they actually tune it for optimal comfort/performance combo. BMW has some of the sweetest sounding, performing, longest-lasting engines in the biz. Why? An I-6 design has an inherit nature of sounding better than a standard V6. The inline engine design enables it to naturally genarate more power from a much smaller pkg than a conventional V6. And the design also permits the engine to last longer due to less stress and moving parts than most engines. Hope this quick tutorial helps. BTW: You say that engines developed "engine oil jellying problems shortly after 100k miles." Sorry to hear that, but you must adhere to the strict mainatenance guidelines set forth by BMW in order to acheive maximum longevity out of the engine. Mabye that's why the Toyota 3.0L V6 never has this problem, oh wait, I think it does in SOME cases, not all.
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