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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#24196 of 24700 Re: Please [brightness04] by tagman Mar 08, 2007 (2:14 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 08, 2007 12:20 pm) That's a classic cop-out. MB makes no money from "if's" and "would's." It was a purchase decision for you to make; you made it, and as someone who cares very much about handling, you got something other than HELC. That's my point.   For HELC, cargo space, seat count and handling only need to be "adequate   We already bought a HELC for my wife. She doesn't care about handling. But cargo space and seat count and seat space and appearance were big on her list of priorities.   I drove the S550 and LS460L to have first hand experience with them, so that when I comment on them here in the forum, I know exactly first hand what they are truly like, in addition to to all the reading about them.   Have you tested them to gain first hand knowledge? Do you own a HELC?   ANYONE that would suggest that handling is not a relevant characteristic of EVERY car, does not know what a car is. It doesn't have to be important to all or any, but it exists nonetheless.   And I suppose that swinging a bat, or running bases aren't characteristics of baseball.   TagMan
#24197 of 24700 Re: Please [brightness04] by pat HOST Mar 08, 2007 (2:27 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 08, 2007 12:20 pm) Don't you think people can and will set their own priority lists? What's important to one person may be lower on someone else's list (or not even show up). That really has nothing to do with what cars we find in the high end luxury class. Replies to this message: tagman (Mar 08, 2007 2:30 pm) houdini1 (Mar 08, 2007 2:49 pm) tagman (Mar 08, 2007 2:51 pm)
#24198 of 24700 Re: Please [pat] by tagman Mar 08, 2007 (2:30 pm)
Replying to: pat (Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm) Thank you, Pat. Even my wife's and my priorities for a HELC are very different, but certainly hers are as valid as mine. A perfect example of what you are saying. TagMan
#24199 of 24700 BMW sets 2006 profit record by tagman Mar 08, 2007 (2:43 pm)
I posted this on the Luxury Lounge forum, but I just know that hpowders, Dewey, and others will appreciate this.   "German automaker Bayerische Motoren Werke AG is the world’s largest luxury automaker and the company has said in a statement that its profit rose 28 percent to a record..."   link title   TagMan Replies to this message: hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 4:03 pm) dewey (Mar 08, 2007 5:25 pm) hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 7:03 pm) and 6 more...
#24200 of 24700 Correction to my post 24196 by tagman Mar 08, 2007 (2:49 pm)
In post 24196... the words   "For HELC, cargo space, seat count and handling only need to be "adequate"   should have been italicized, as I intended to display brightness's previous statement.   Those words are not my own, nor do I agree with them. If the host can italicize them, I would appreciate it.   TagMan
#24201 of 24700 Re: Please [pat] by houdini1 Mar 08, 2007 (2:49 pm)
Replying to: pat (Mar 08, 2007 2:27 pm) I did not read the Brightness's post as trying to set priorities for others. His point, I believe, is the same as yours. Different people have different priorities and not everyones top priority, especially for HELCS, is handling. Replies to this message: tagman (Mar 08, 2007 2:51 pm)
#24202 of 24700 Re: Please [houdini1] by tagman Mar 08, 2007 (2:51 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Mar 08, 2007 2:49 pm) He posted that handling has no relevance at all to HELC... and that it wasn't even part of the definition according to the forum.   Handling is a characteristic of ALL cars, HELC included. The importance is another matter, as Pat pointed out.   Here is his post # 24182: HELC is not about handling. Read the tagline of the forum.   In post 24194 brightness stated: For HELC, cargo space, seat count and handling only need to be "adequate,"   This time, brightness dictated the importance level of handling is that it only needs to be "adequate". Again, as Pat pointed out, to each his own.   So, I'm sorry, but brightness did indeed first say that handling had no relevance, and then he said it only needed to be "adequate". Both his posts contradicted himself, and both of his posts are contrary to the idea of each person setting his own priorities for the characteristic of handling, which does indeed exist on a HELC, contrary to his first post.   TagMan
#24203 of 24700 Re: More Excitement And Thrills From BMW [dewey] by hpowders Mar 08, 2007 (3:59 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 08, 2007 11:58 am) Yes, Dewey. BMW is firing on all cylinders.
#24204 of 24700 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [tagman] by hpowders Mar 08, 2007 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Mar 08, 2007 2:43 pm) Yes. I previously posted that BMW had record 2006 profits; the best year in history according to CE Reithofer. I don't know if this would have been possible without the direct participation of Dewey and me.   PS: Interesting and to the point: BMW is looking over their shoulder at Audi and I don't blame them.   The perfect vehicle for me would have BMW handling with an Audi interior and a refreshingly normal push button radio! Replies to this message: dewey (Mar 08, 2007 5:25 pm) hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 7:03 pm) jlbl (Mar 09, 2007 2:42 am) and 5 more...
#24205 of 24700 Re: BMW sets 2006 profit record [hpowders] by dewey Mar 08, 2007 (5:25 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 4:03 pm) The perfect vehicle for me would have BMW handling with an Audi interior and a refreshingly normal push button radio!   Sorry I wholeheartedly disagree with you there. A normal push button radio sounds far too radical and simple to me. I kind of like having my brain teased by idrive. At least it excercises my mind and keeps my brain young Replies to this message: hpowders (Mar 08, 2007 7:03 pm) jlbl (Mar 09, 2007 2:42 am) hpowders (Mar 09, 2007 4:34 am) and 4 more...

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