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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24697 messages, Last post on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 07, 2007 4:13 pm) Bimmer has been building the straight-6 motor for decades, yet they've never failed and with proper maintenance, have been known to exceed 200k miles with ease. Just because the Japanese-brand models are coming out with hot V6's doesn't make BMW obsolete, as we all know the 3-Series still holds it own. The 335 makes 300hp even, yet it's 4.75 0-60 makes it faster than the 306hp IS and GS. Only the new 300hp CTS is left to chance it. |
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Replying to: drfill (Mar 07, 2007 12:05 pm) Having trouble moving cars and getting overly-aggressive to generate volume sales are two entirely different things... TagMan
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Replying to: pat (Mar 06, 2007 7:03 am) IMO the RS4 is much better than the E60 M5. It's a bit of an E39 reincarnate. Supreme handling, gearbox, engine, style, interior... and even similar power from its (smaller) V8. The only difference? It has the wrong configuration. Like Porsche, Audi has learned how to deal with this the hard way. It's harder to make the RS4 great to drive than an M5 or M3. And this is coming from someone who desperately wants the new M3: http://www.autospies.com/news/GENEVA-MOTOR-SHOW-PHOTO-GALLERY-More-photos-of-the- -BMW-M3-Concept-13171/ It's beautiful. I want an M3 convertible to replace the S4 and an S5 coupe as my next winter car. Ultimate performance fleet! And I'd be able to compare them. '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 07, 2007 4:13 pm) |
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Replying to: blkhemi (Mar 07, 2007 7:21 pm) BTW, the 200k boast is so ludicrous. If it's so easy, why isn't BMW offering 200k warranty? For what it's worth, both my 5 series developed engine oil jellying problem shortly after 100k miles.
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Replying to: esf (Mar 07, 2007 7:51 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 07, 2007 7:46 pm)  I certainly hope BMW's gamble on currency plays out okay: by the time the cars come back on lease returns, hopefully dollar is worth more in terms of Euros so that the accounting in Euros will look okay and the company can pay back debt. Having an aggressive competitor around certainly benefit the consumers. It's hard to beat some of the deals on BMW's nowadays: 10+% off with Euro delivery on the front end, and 70-75% residual at the back end, leaving only 15% MSRP to pay for two years of drivig pleasure; life is wonderful for us consumers.
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Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 8:39 pm) Gee whiz, when I tested the S550 and the LS460L, I must have made a big mistake when I made references to the cars' handling. And I guess Car and Driver and Road and Track and Motor Trend and Automobile and Edmunds and AutoWeek all must be out of their minds to ever discuss handling when they review a HELC... after all YOU have declared that HELC is not about handling. Sorry to pop your balloon, but ALL cars are about handling. It just so happens that handling is an inherent characteristic of every car, including low-end cars, high-end cars, and everything in between. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 07, 2007 9:22 pm) |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 11:48 pm) There are very few twisty mountain roads in the Kansas City area. Virtually 100% of my driving consists of 35 mph suburban driving, bumper to bumper freeway driving, or 75 mph freeway driving. Mostly all in a fairly straignt line. Hair trigger steering and twitchiness and even manual transmissions are not condusive to this type of driving. Quiet, comfortable serenity is. I have had to resign myself to finding excitement and thrills in other venues.
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