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24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Please by pat HOST
Mar 06, 2007 (7:03 am)
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Please let's keep our comments focused on the high end cars and leave out the sniping at each other. Some more posts have been removed.
 
I know you guys know how to keep to the subject without dragging personal comments into the debate. Let's get back there, okay?
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Mercedes hybrid by tagman
Mar 06, 2007 (10:07 pm)
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It's coming... in 2009.
 
link title
 
TagMan
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Breaking News by brightness04
Mar 06, 2007 (11:50 pm)
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070306/UPDATE/703060451/1148- /AUTO01
 
Wow! $11,345 support on 7 series! Wonders of financial engineering
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Re: Breaking News [brightness04] by tagman
Mar 07, 2007 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 06, 2007 11:50 pm)

OMG, don't let this amazing opportunity pass you by.
Now's your chance to trade in your Saab for a REAL driving machine.
 
TagMan
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Wow! by drfill
Mar 07, 2007 (12:05 pm)
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Didn't know BMW was having this much trouble moving the metal!
  
   Regarding the 7 series, this information may be a referendum on the less than opulent or inviting interior, and hopefully an improvement, brand-wide, is in the works.
 
   DrFill
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I am surprised...... by cyclone4
Mar 07, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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I am surprised that you folks have not commented on the new information that ljflx revealed (LS460 forum) about R & T's admitting that testing of the post production models are much more accurate test results. Based on the fact that C & D tested a pre-production LS460, basically proves that those results were quite erroneous. I would paste his post here but I will not do so without his permission.
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Re: I am surprised...... [cyclone4] by hpowders
Mar 07, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Mar 07, 2007 12:25 pm)

So when I read a positive review of a BMW pre-production vehicle in R&T or C&D, the car I may eventually lease should actually be even better? Great news!
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Re: I am surprised...... [cyclone4] by houdini1
Mar 07, 2007 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Mar 07, 2007 12:25 pm)

Well, I think anyone with a brain and that knew how to read already knew that the report in question was completely bogus. Most people just dismissed it out of hand.
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Re: Breaking News [tagman] by brightness04
Mar 07, 2007 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 07, 2007 9:17 am)

7 series is not a REAL driving machine; it's a HELC. In any case, I'm looking to add a car, not trading the Saab, because the Saab is probably more valuable as a justification for writing down the entire lease payment on the new car as business expense.
 
Since you brought up Saab, what really scares me is that BMW's turbo-charging gammit is smelling like what Saab did in the 80's: extracting short term profit on existing engine instead of ploughing more money into massive new R&D. It would be a damn shame if BMW becomes non-viable as an independent going concern . . . kinda scary on a day when Dr. Z talks about MB itself potentially becoming a take-over target.

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