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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

#24158 of 24700 Pretty disappointing by drfill Mar 05, 2007 (7:49 pm)
That BMW would hamstring their own car that way, Toyota-esque, if you will. I would think Toyota and BMW have different clientele, different objectives.      If the BMW can't outperform, what good is it? At $90k, not much.      Bad enough iDrive is standard. No joy for 5 fans.      Wouldn't put it past BMW to stack the deck against the manual, to put over the controversial SMG. The SMG does have to pay for itself, at some point.      BMW is not as prescient as other companies in knowing what it's customers want/expect. You get what they give you.      DrFill Replies to this message: lexusguy (Mar 05, 2007 8:57 pm)
#24159 of 24700 Re: breaking news [dewey] by lexusguy Mar 05, 2007 (8:57 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Mar 05, 2007 7:25 pm) Unfortunately "Computers on Wheels' is the future for all cars including performance ones.   Not necessarily. The Z4M is what a Motorsport car should be, rude and crude. Lotus also hasn't become infatuated with computers and iDrive style control systems. Then you have cars like the Ariel Atom, which is an Elise without all the unnecessary extras, like a windshield and body. Replies to this message: dewey (Mar 08, 2007 5:32 pm)
#24160 of 24700 Re: Pretty disappointing [drfill] by lexusguy Mar 05, 2007 (8:57 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Mar 05, 2007 7:49 pm) That BMW would hamstring their own car that way, Toyota-esque, if you will. I would think Toyota and BMW have different clientele, different objectives.   Even Volvo lets you shut down the stability control on the S60R.
#24164 of 24700 Please by pat HOST Mar 06, 2007 (7:03 am)
Please let's keep our comments focused on the high end cars and leave out the sniping at each other. Some more posts have been removed.   I know you guys know how to keep to the subject without dragging personal comments into the debate. Let's get back there, okay? Replies to this message: esf (Mar 07, 2007 7:51 pm) brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 8:39 pm) tagman (Mar 07, 2007 9:22 pm) and 12 more...
#24165 of 24700 Mercedes hybrid by tagman Mar 06, 2007 (10:07 pm)
It's coming... in 2009.   link title   TagMan
#24166 of 24700 Breaking News by brightness04 Mar 06, 2007 (11:50 pm)
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070306/UPDATE/703060451/1148- /AUTO01   Wow! $11,345 support on 7 series! Wonders of financial engineering Replies to this message: tagman (Mar 07, 2007 9:17 am) brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 3:28 pm) lexusguy (Mar 07, 2007 4:13 pm) and 6 more... houdini1 (Mar 08, 2007 6:29 pm)
#24167 of 24700 Re: Breaking News [brightness04] by tagman Mar 07, 2007 (9:17 am)
Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 06, 2007 11:50 pm) OMG, don't let this amazing opportunity pass you by. Now's your chance to trade in your Saab for a REAL driving machine.   TagMan Replies to this message: brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 3:28 pm) lexusguy (Mar 07, 2007 4:13 pm) blkhemi (Mar 07, 2007 7:21 pm) and 4 more... brightness04 (Mar 07, 2007 8:30 pm)

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