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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Mar 05, 2007 1:35 am) BMW M series models have evolved from the very harsh 88 M3 into the more refined and sophisticated M series models you see today. Unfortunately the current M5 is a bit too civilized for its own good. The very best M series for an enthusiast is the 88 M3. It may not be the fastest but overall it is by far the most exciting car to drive than any of the current versions of "computers on wheels" like the Audi RS or BMW M series models you see today. The future enthusiast cars of tomorrow will not be new cars but vintage luddite cars of the past like dated Porsche Carreras and 1980s and 90s BMW M series models. Unfortunately "Computers on Wheels' is the future for all cars including performance ones.
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That BMW would hamstring their own car that way, Toyota-esque, if you will. I would think Toyota and BMW have different clientele, different objectives. If the BMW can't outperform, what good is it? At $90k, not much. Bad enough iDrive is standard. No joy for 5 fans.  Wouldn't put it past BMW to stack the deck against the manual, to put over the controversial SMG. The SMG does have to pay for itself, at some point. BMW is not as prescient as other companies in knowing what it's customers want/expect. You get what they give you.  DrFill
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 05, 2007 7:25 pm) Not necessarily. The Z4M is what a Motorsport car should be, rude and crude. Lotus also hasn't become infatuated with computers and iDrive style control systems. Then you have cars like the Ariel Atom, which is an Elise without all the unnecessary extras, like a windshield and body.
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Replying to: drfill (Mar 05, 2007 7:49 pm) Even Volvo lets you shut down the stability control on the S60R. |
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Please let's keep our comments focused on the high end cars and leave out the sniping at each other. Some more posts have been removed. I know you guys know how to keep to the subject without dragging personal comments into the debate. Let's get back there, okay?
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It's coming... in 2009. link title TagMan |
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http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070306/UPDATE/703060451/1148- /AUTO01 Wow! $11,345 support on 7 series! Wonders of financial engineering 
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