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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Marketing is their major strength by dhamilton
Mar 04, 2007 (8:33 pm)
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Got to agree with ya there fill.
 
They do marketing better than anybody.
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Fortunately by drfill
Mar 04, 2007 (8:57 pm)
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Those scrubs didn't do MY TOL event.
 
   I woulda had to bust a cap!
 
   Go Carts? That ain't right.
 
   DrFill
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breaking news by dhamilton
Mar 04, 2007 (10:21 pm)
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this just in. Someone in car journalism actually likes the Audi RS4 over the M5..........
 
Film at 11:00...errrr inside line.
 
Take all the marketing kudos and give them to Lexus.
 
Audi has engineered a nose heavy M beater.
 
I'm tellin y'all it's on. Audi is bringing fighter jets to knife fights.
 
All unbelievers clear the room. The company picnic is expanding from ALMS, and coming to a neighborhood near you.
 
Wake the kids, call the in-laws.
 
That's how you start a marketing campaign. You go right to the toughest kid on the block, and knock him right on his ass.
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Re: breaking news [dhamilton] by lexusguy
Mar 05, 2007 (1:35 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Mar 04, 2007 10:21 pm)

You go right to the toughest kid on the block, and knock him right on his ass.
 
BMW sort of did that to themselves. They screwed up the M5, and left the door wide open for Audi to walk in and smack them around a bit. Hopefully this experience will bring the M guys back down to earth and they can start making cars again instead of computers with wheels.
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link by pat HOST
Mar 05, 2007 (4:41 am)
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2007 RS 4 vs 2007 M5
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Re: breaking news [dhamilton] by 2001gs430
Mar 05, 2007 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Mar 04, 2007 10:21 pm)

I really admire your taste for Audi, but I think the company still has a lot to over come the bad reputation they had back in the 80's (or early 90's?).
I was at a gathering last night, and some friends mentioned that they test drove BMW sedans. They loved how the BMW drove but was disappointed with the interior. I told them to looked at Audi since I heard from this forum that the company has the best interior and very good cars lately. Guess what was the first response from my friends, "we heard that Audi vehicles have this issue with unintended acceleration ".
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Re: breaking news [dhamilton] by brightness04
Mar 05, 2007 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Mar 04, 2007 10:21 pm)

Not surprising at all. M5 is a whole size bigger than RS4, with the inevitable dynamics handicaps, both due to the physical size and weight as well as intended market (people who do not have families get M3 not M5; DSC disable is not a good idea if BMW doesn't want law suits with crushed babies in the backseat in a family car). It just goes to show that, if your primary pursuit is vehicle dynamic performance, HELC is not the place to be.
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Re: OAC [hpowders] by brightness04
Mar 05, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Mar 04, 2007 6:50 am)

I don't know of any leasing deals for any auto manufacturer where tires are covered when you turn the car in.
 
No other auto manufacturer is advertising "pay nothing and drive 4 years / 50,000 miles" either. $1000+ (or even $2000+ for two sets in 50k miles) is certainly not "pay nothing," especially when we are talking about cars that get leased for only about 20-30% MSRP between cap cost and residual.
  
What I do is replace the tires after 2 years whether they are worn or not. That way I get one year of use out of them and the tread will pass the 36 month inspection turn-in.
 
Exactly! What with my wife driving, after about 2 years/20k miles, the tires can't pass state safety inspection
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Re: OAC [dewey] by brightness04
Mar 05, 2007 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 04, 2007 6:16 am)

Tires are car maintenance items, just like brakes. Gasoline, car insurance, travel and restaurants are not car maintenance.
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Re: breaking news [brightness04] by lexusguy
Mar 05, 2007 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Mar 05, 2007 9:43 am)

DSC disable is not a good idea if BMW doesn't want law suits with crushed babies in the backseat in a family car). It just goes to show that, if your primary pursuit is vehicle dynamic performance, HELC is not the place to be.
 
You're not actually serious, are you? BMW's reasoning was not "crushed babies". This M5 was botched from day one. If they had designed it around a manual transmission, you would be able turn off the DSC, just like in the last M5. The RS6 is going to mop the floor with BMW's failure.

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