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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
Mar 03, 2007 (4:55 pm)
Well, Oac, it's nice to see you are considering a BMW vehicle.
Instead of an M, I would check out the 335i coupe: M-like power (0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds) and BMW's best-looking vehicle, IMO. The reviews have been universally ecstatic.
FYI, the 335i convertible goes on sale this spring.
My 2005 545 has been flawless after 20 months and I do believe CR gave it an "unreliable" rating.
Plenty of BMWs out there and the company is doing well. People wouldn't be buying or leasing BMWs if major reliability issues were associated with these vehicles.
If you are considering a BMW, I sure would recommend you lease one. Very fair leasing deals from BMWFS with a great warranty. Nothing out of pocket except replacement tires.
Mar 03, 2007 (5:05 pm)
Tag, I think he’s referring to our comments that we will believe it when we see it.
Mar 03, 2007 (5:05 pm)
But from reading from Dman, Tag, and Dewey about my interest in an M3, they all write like its taboo for a Lexican to own a Bimmer !
Oac, it is clear to me that you would like some sort of sport vehicle. My comment was based on your priorities with the family situation. Those priorities are very understandable and admirable. Heck, I lusted for a Porsche and didn’t get one until I was 53. I owned four Toyotas and two Volvos. No taboo here. Your time will come. You’re probably taking care of family concerns and that, my friend, is the most important thing. You seem to be doing the right thing as a good husband and father. The cars play second fiddle and we know it.
Time for my yearly reminder. Car yentas... all of us! The cars and all of this blog blabber ain’t that important.
Mar 03, 2007 (10:14 pm)
Just found out that tires are not covered as wear items in the "pay nothing and drive 4years, 50k miles" marketing tagline. Talk about misleading! BMW's are once again crossed off the shopping list. It's outrageous. Tires are one of the biggest replacement expense in the first 24-36 months, assuming the car is not a complete disaster.
#24125 of 24723 Re: OAC [brightness04]
by dewey
Mar 04, 2007 (7:16 am)
pay nothing and drive 4years, 50k miles" marketing tagline
LOL,
did you honestly think the tagline above includes tires? Pay nothing for 4 years? If that is the case BMW should cover not only the tires but also the driver's gasoline expenses, car insurance and all travel/restaurant expenses during the 4 years/50k mile term?
BMW and every single auto firm provides warranties on their new cars.
Bridgestone and all tire makers provides warranties on their tires at a cost ofcourse.
#24126 of 24723 Re: OAC [brightness04]
by hpowders
Mar 04, 2007 (7:50 am)
I don't know of any leasing deals for any auto manufacturer where tires are covered when you turn the car in.
What I do is replace the tires after 2 years whether they are worn or not. That way I get one year of use out of them and the tread will pass the 36 month inspection turn-in.
#24130 of 24723 You are all too nice :)
by oac
Mar 04, 2007 (11:31 am)
Thanks Dman, Tag, LG, Howard, etc... You guys renewed my faith in this forum... Heck, I was down on HELC just like Len was. But I think I'll stick around some.
And Dman, a special thanks to you for those kind words... I truly truly appreciated those words... every single one of them. Thanks so much.
An Audi S4 cabriolet sounds like a nice idea. I'll definitely check one out. And Howard's suggestions are pretty nice too. Howard, a couple colleagues of mine at work have the 335i. For some strange reasons this car isn't moving my spirit. To be quite honest, I'd rather like a Bangled version of the 3, rather than the muted inoffensive version. Which appears even more strange since my initial reaction to the Bangle-5 was "eeeewwwww", but now I simply love that car. Methinks its a beauty. Maybe I'll change my mind about the 335i as it grows on me... Maybe...