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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Lexus vs. BMW [dewey] by syswei
Mar 02, 2007 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 02, 2007 12:59 pm)

You are correct, my mistake. I didn't look at the BMW release closely enough, and was fooled because they broke out SUVs separately.
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Re: Lexus vs. BMW [dewey] by hpowders
Mar 02, 2007 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 02, 2007 1:46 pm)

I would rather be right than share a widely held opinion that happens to be wrong!
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Re: Predicated Reliability: [dewey] by cdnpinhead
Mar 02, 2007 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: dewey (Mar 02, 2007 1:07 pm)

Is this another one of those truncated scales?
 
If the top guy is 141 and #12 is 35, that tells one story. If the top guy is 141 and #12 is 138.4, it tells a much different one.
 
I get a kick (look at my moniker) out of newspaper bar charts that make things appear totally out of kilter, right up until the y axis scale is examined. Often it's from 100 to 105, NOT from 0 to 105, the way most people (well, the 12 who actaully care about a bar chart and know how to interpret it) think it is when they look at it.
 
Enquiring minds. . .
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Re: OAC [hpowders] by oac
Mar 03, 2007 (1:57 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Mar 01, 2007 6:59 am)

When you get into M territory, one is really talking about a weekend toy
 
You got it, Howard.
 
But from reading from Dman, Tag, and Dewey about my interest in an M3, they all write like its taboo for a Lexican to own a Bimmer ! What gives ? Of course I'd like a car that doesn't fall apart, so I want something reliable. I don't plan it as a daily driver either. The Boxster intrigued me, but the spouse don't care for a 2-seater, so that was ruled out. Hence the 330ci or M3. Seemed like if you wanna get a real sporty Bimmer, get an M, so an M it is for me... No swammy panzi pretend 3-series Now I read that you guys don't believe I'll ever buy an M ? I am disappointed in you guys, for having so little faith in me.... Is it bcos its a Bimmer, or is it that I'd never drive anything except a Lex ? Enquiring minds want to know..
 
Last time I was car shopping (Dec 2005), I was in between a Porsche Cayenne and an LX470. I posted on HELM and LG mentioned all the unspeakable problems with the Porsche, that pushed me over the hump towards the LX which I bought (spouse's ride). I recall also mentioning a desire to buy an LS460 (for moi), but then things changed and I needed to go in a new direction, hence going sporty ride this time.... Its a search that'll last until I find the perfect car, whatever that is... I am open to other ideas/suggestions beyond an M... Gotta be a 2-door and/or convertible.
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Re: OAC [oac] by tagman
Mar 03, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Mar 03, 2007 1:57 pm)

But from reading from Dman, Tag, and Dewey about my interest in an M3, they all write like its taboo for a Lexican to own a Bimmer ! What gives ?
 
taboo? oac, here is my exact quote from my reply to you regarding the M3...
 
"an M3 sounds like a very good choice for you and the wife, as would be the Civic for your teenager."
 
'nuff said?
 
TagMan
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Re: OAC [oac] by lexusguy
Mar 03, 2007 (3:24 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Mar 03, 2007 1:57 pm)

What about an Audi? There's the S4 cabrio, and the upcoming S5 coupe and TT-RS. SLK AMG? If you want to go really hardcore, there's the Elise\Exige.
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Re: OAC [oac] by hpowders
Mar 03, 2007 (3:55 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Mar 03, 2007 1:57 pm)

Well, Oac, it's nice to see you are considering a BMW vehicle.
 
Instead of an M, I would check out the 335i coupe: M-like power (0-60 mph in 5.5 seconds) and BMW's best-looking vehicle, IMO. The reviews have been universally ecstatic.
 
FYI, the 335i convertible goes on sale this spring.
 
My 2005 545 has been flawless after 20 months and I do believe CR gave it an "unreliable" rating.
 
Plenty of BMWs out there and the company is doing well. People wouldn't be buying or leasing BMWs if major reliability issues were associated with these vehicles.
 
If you are considering a BMW, I sure would recommend you lease one. Very fair leasing deals from BMWFS with a great warranty. Nothing out of pocket except replacement tires.
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Re: OAC [tagman] by designman
Mar 03, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Mar 03, 2007 3:19 pm)

Tag, I think he’s referring to our comments that we will believe it when we see it.
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Re: OAC [oac] by designman
Mar 03, 2007 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: oac (Mar 03, 2007 1:57 pm)

But from reading from Dman, Tag, and Dewey about my interest in an M3, they all write like its taboo for a Lexican to own a Bimmer !
 
Oac, it is clear to me that you would like some sort of sport vehicle. My comment was based on your priorities with the family situation. Those priorities are very understandable and admirable. Heck, I lusted for a Porsche and didn’t get one until I was 53. I owned four Toyotas and two Volvos. No taboo here. Your time will come. You’re probably taking care of family concerns and that, my friend, is the most important thing. You seem to be doing the right thing as a good husband and father. The cars play second fiddle and we know it.
 
Time for my yearly reminder. Car yentas... all of us! The cars and all of this blog blabber ain’t that important.
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Re: OAC [hpowders] by brightness04
Mar 03, 2007 (9:14 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Mar 03, 2007 3:55 pm)

Just found out that tires are not covered as wear items in the "pay nothing and drive 4years, 50k miles" marketing tagline. Talk about misleading! BMW's are once again crossed off the shopping list. It's outrageous. Tires are one of the biggest replacement expense in the first 24-36 months, assuming the car is not a complete disaster.

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