High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#23934 of 24700 Re: Porsche will very probably take control of VW [reality2] by designman Feb 15, 2007 (4:46 am)
Replying to: reality2 (Feb 14, 2007 9:09 pm) Will be interesting to watch. I'm wondering how the Piech/Wiedeking relationship will play out because with Porsche the family members have a hands-off management agreement, I think. However, Wiedeking is thought of highly. Just as an FYI, there are some 50 members of the Porsche/Piech family and the average net worth of each member is somewhere around $150 mil. VW and Porsche. This was in the stars. Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 8:09 am) jlbl (Feb 15, 2007 11:11 am) designman (Feb 15, 2007 12:49 pm)
#23935 of 24700 VW/Porsche by dhamilton Feb 15, 2007 (6:26 am)
I agree Tag, For many reasons. I hope it doesn't jack Audi. BTW, loved your LS review, very fair, and balanced like Fox news [maybe that's a bad example] Can't wait to see what you think of the A8. I don't think there is a better looking HELC sedan. Do you?
#23936 of 24700 Re: Porsche will very probably take control of VW [designman] by tagman Feb 15, 2007 (8:09 am)
Replying to: designman (Feb 15, 2007 4:46 am) VW and Porsche. This was in the stars. I, for one, like the potential I see here. TagMan Replies to this message: jlbl (Feb 15, 2007 11:11 am) designman (Feb 15, 2007 12:49 pm)
#23937 of 24700 Time to split? by tagman Feb 15, 2007 (8:51 am)
Another blurb on the Chrysler and Mercedes marriage... after a decade, will it lead to an inevitable divorce? link title TagMan Replies to this message: houdini1 (Feb 15, 2007 9:59 am) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 10:03 am) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 1:30 pm) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 2:12 pm) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 3:16 pm) and 5 more... blkhemi (Feb 15, 2007 4:00 pm) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 6:41 pm) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 9:59 pm) reality2 (Feb 16, 2007 2:24 pm)
#23938 of 24700 Re: Time to split? [tagman] by houdini1 Feb 15, 2007 (9:59 am)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 8:51 am) I think I hear Tami Wynette warming up in the background. Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 10:03 am)
#23939 of 24700 Re: Time to split? [houdini1] by tagman Feb 15, 2007 (10:03 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 15, 2007 9:59 am)
#23940 of 24700 Re: Porsche, Audi and VW [tagman] by jlbl Feb 15, 2007 (11:11 am)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 8:09 am) And I, for two, too. Jose
#23941 of 24700 Re: Porsche will very probably take control of VW [tagman] by designman Feb 15, 2007 (12:49 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 8:09 am) I'm not sure what to think. I'm thinking it will be fairly uneventful at least for a while in terms of the products but VW stands to benefit by being associated with the Porsche brand. Ditto for Audi. For one thing it's all German unlike the Daimler venture, and there is a familiarity and relationship that goes back a long time. I would think this counts for something. Another thing is that this protects Porsche Holding which has been the distributor for Porsches, VWs and Audis. This would have been totally threatened if another suitor entered the game. It could be that this was everything behind it to begin with. I believe it was a major part of it. What grows from here is anyone's guess, I guess.
#23942 of 24700 Re: Time to split? [tagman] by lexusguy Feb 15, 2007 (1:30 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 8:51 am) Another blurb on the Chrysler and Mercedes marriage... after a decade, will it lead to an inevitable divorce? One thing is for sure, a lot of people at Mercedes are definitely not behind "project X" aka "that Mercedes is just a gussied up Chrysler". I'm sure the guys at Lexus NA would love to hear that one. It will take many more years to even try and undo all of the damage done to Daimler AG by Mr. Schrempp, who presided not just over the Chrysler\Benz "merger", but the failures at Smart, the enormous quality slide at Mercedes, and also all of those bailouts sent to Mitsubishi on an ultimately failed partnership. For as much Criticism as GM and Ford get, they are far better at managing global auto operations than DB. Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 15, 2007 2:12 pm) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 3:16 pm) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 3:34 pm) and 4 more... blkhemi (Feb 15, 2007 4:00 pm) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 6:41 pm) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 9:59 pm)
#23943 of 24700 Re: Time to split? [lexusguy] by tagman Feb 15, 2007 (2:12 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 1:30 pm) It will take many more years to even try and undo all of the damage done to Daimler AG by Mr. Schrempp The sooner, the better. The domestic manufacturers are in serious trouble. The only hope I see for them is to leapfrog the competition into the future. Will it happen? There is a chance... if survival instincts kick in... soon. Japanese, European, Korean, and even Chinese players are going to be relentless. In the end, better products will emerge for buyers regardless of which corporations win or lose. TagMan Replies to this message: lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 3:16 pm) tagman (Feb 15, 2007 3:34 pm) lexusguy (Feb 15, 2007 9:47 pm) and 3 more...