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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders] by anthonyp
Feb 13, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Feb 13, 2007 4:35 pm)

Hi HP
 
No question about the reliability, and all seeming to be fine, including Mercedes now.....One more day of driving the Great little Honda...So simple, and agile...Too hot one button, and a small twist of one knob, and comfortable....In tafic today and a BMW pulls up next to me...Huge car, and it is a 5---in fact almost all the cars are monsters....Makes me think we may be at the pinnacle of high horsepower and large size,and if for some reason we all had to downshift it is nice to know these smaller cars have merit and are fun to drive---at least around town---I think the price of the Audi 8 may be the value, relatively speaking Tony
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Re: "So is every other car" [lexusguy] by hpowders
Feb 13, 2007 (8:48 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 13, 2007 5:30 pm)

Yes. I am very happy leasing BMWs.
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Re: "So is every other car" [anthonyp] by hpowders
Feb 13, 2007 (8:51 pm)
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Replying to: anthonyp (Feb 13, 2007 5:48 pm)

Hey Tony! I am eagerly awaiting Tagman's impression of the A8L!
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Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders] by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Feb 13, 2007 4:35 pm)

You took the words out of my mouth.
 
Four Audis. No reliability issues. Unless you count what I mentioned above (headlight washer cap flying off) as a reliability issue. Granted, these are 1998 models and newer- so it's possible that they were less reliable before that.
 
Two Lexi ('98 RX300 and '04 RX330). None either, unless you count the speedometer freezing in the RX300 in 2002 as a reliability issue. It could be called that. Our Lexus dealer apologized profusely for the car's behavior.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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Re: Most Reliable Luxury Cars [blkhemi] by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (8:59 pm)
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Replying to: blkhemi (Feb 13, 2007 4:26 pm)

When I was in New York last August, I somehow managed to get an LS430 to pick us up from the hotel and drive us to the airport. Although it had some wear-'n-tear, I wasn't impressed with the car's quality. It didn't scream "luxury" like the S-Class or A8.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders] by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (9:00 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Feb 13, 2007 8:51 pm)

TagMan got an A8L? In addition to his Carrera S?
 
I'm jealous...
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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Re: "So is every other car" [esf] by tagman
Feb 13, 2007 (9:42 pm)
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Replying to: esf (Feb 13, 2007 9:00 pm)

TagMan got an A8L? In addition to his Carrera S?
 
No esf... sorry. No such luck. Hpowders was talking about waiting for my impression of the A8L test drive.
 
Slight chance Thursday, depending upon schedule. Since the BMW and the Audi dealerships are next door to each other, I'd like to have enough time, if possible, to test drive both the Bimmer and the Audi.
 
TagMan
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Re: "So is every other car" [esf] by hpowders
Feb 14, 2007 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: esf (Feb 13, 2007 9:00 pm)

As Tagman says, he wants to test drive the A8L and the BMW 7 also.
 
I have given up on the BMW 7. BMW does not provide enough luxury to compete in the HELC price range. Its interior is not too dissimilar to that found in the 545.
 
 My HELC interest is in the A8. I sat in one and I liked the seats and felt that I was engulfed by a luxurious interior. But, I haven't driven one yet.
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Porsche will very probably take control of VW by jlbl
Feb 14, 2007 (10:51 am)
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European High Court Attorney has just proposed the Court to suspend the German Law that forbids Porsche to take executive control of VW, being Porsche as it is the major VW shareholder with 27% of the stock. The Attorney has proposed also to allow Porsche, confronting the German Law, to make a hostile offer in order to buy more VW shares.
 
It is thought that European High Court will very probably follow the advice of the Attorney for the shake of free concurrence within Europe. German Law actually protects the right of the German Federal Government and the State of Low Saxon, which are VW shareholders as well, to have executive control of VW.
 
May be VW will afterwards change for better its strange car model catergories!
 
Jose
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Re: Porsche will very probably take control of VW [jlbl] by reality2
Feb 14, 2007 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: jlbl (Feb 14, 2007 10:51 am)

Well, here is part two of the story from the Financial Times of London:
 
"Porsche gains de facto control of VW"
 
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The State of Lower Saxony under the stewardship of Christian Wulff has given up the battle to prevent Porsche acquiring a 29.9% stake in VW, chairmanship and a number of seats on the Board. This now leaves Porsche free to increase its shareholding in VW from 27.4%. Reported in today's Financial Times, Wendelin Wiedeking will assume executive control of the entire group with Ferdinand Piech as a kind of honorary chairman above him. Given this situation, Porsche does not need to acquire any more shares in VW, although it could if necessary.
 
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It was obvious this was the goal of Porsche and to a certain degree Audi management.

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