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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#23916 of 24723 "So is every other car"
by hpowders
Feb 13, 2007 (5:35 pm)
Exactly!
So tired of hearing about "reliability." When was the last time anybody has seen a tow truck bailing someone out on the side of the interstate? The reliability argument is tired and dated. Vehicles today are incredibly reliable. They have to be, to compete.
3 BMWs. No reliability issues since 1993. Maybe I'm different, but I like getting reliability AND breathtaking performance.
Why settle for a vehicle whose only selling point is reliability?
#23917 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders]
by houdini1
Feb 13, 2007 (5:44 pm)
You can bet that BMW is even more tired than you are from hearing about the fabulous Lexus reliability.
#23918 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders]
by lexusguy
Feb 13, 2007 (6:30 pm)
The problem for Lexus is that its competitors are catching up fast. How far can Lexus possibly improve from where they are now? Infiniti is very close behind, and their products are fun to drive. When you lease a BMW, you don't have to worry about anything but the lease payment. Lexus doesn't have an answer for that.
#23919 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders]
by anthonyp
Feb 13, 2007 (6:48 pm)
Hi HP
No question about the reliability, and all seeming to be fine, including Mercedes now.....One more day of driving the Great little Honda...So simple, and agile...Too hot one button, and a small twist of one knob, and comfortable....In tafic today and a BMW pulls up next to me...Huge car, and it is a 5---in fact almost all the cars are monsters....Makes me think we may be at the pinnacle of high horsepower and large size,and if for some reason we all had to downshift it is nice to know these smaller cars have merit and are fun to drive---at least around town---I think the price of the Audi 8 may be the value, relatively speaking Tony
#23920 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [lexusguy]
by hpowders
Feb 13, 2007 (9:48 pm)
Yes. I am very happy leasing BMWs.
#23921 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [anthonyp]
by hpowders
Feb 13, 2007 (9:51 pm)
Hey Tony! I am eagerly awaiting Tagman's impression of the A8L!
#23922 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders]
by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (9:57 pm)
You took the words out of my mouth.
Four Audis. No reliability issues. Unless you count what I mentioned above (headlight washer cap flying off) as a reliability issue. Granted, these are 1998 models and newer- so it's possible that they were less reliable before that.
Two Lexi ('98 RX300 and '04 RX330). None either, unless you count the speedometer freezing in the RX300 in 2002 as a reliability issue. It could be called that. Our Lexus dealer apologized profusely for the car's behavior.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23923 of 24723 Re: Most Reliable Luxury Cars [blkhemi]
by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (9:59 pm)
When I was in New York last August, I somehow managed to get an LS430 to pick us up from the hotel and drive us to the airport. Although it had some wear-'n-tear, I wasn't impressed with the car's quality. It didn't scream "luxury" like the S-Class or A8.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23924 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [hpowders]
by esf
Feb 13, 2007 (10:00 pm)
TagMan got an A8L? In addition to his Carrera S?
I'm jealous...
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23925 of 24723 Re: "So is every other car" [esf]
by tagman
Feb 13, 2007 (10:42 pm)
TagMan got an A8L? In addition to his Carrera S?
No esf... sorry. No such luck. Hpowders was talking about waiting for my impression of the A8L test drive.
Slight chance Thursday, depending upon schedule. Since the BMW and the Audi dealerships are next door to each other, I'd like to have enough time, if possible, to test drive both the Bimmer and the Audi.
TagMan