High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#23881 of 24700 Edmunds Most Wanted Sedan Over $60,000 by hpowders Feb 10, 2007 (5:52 am)
No surprises in your fine, COMANDing review of the Mercedes Benz S Class, tagman. Looking forward to your test drive of Edmunds top pick, the Audi A8, which would be the only HELC I myself would be interested in driving. Having driven the S Class already should prove a vital and interesting comparison. Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 10, 2007 10:11 am) dewey (Feb 10, 2007 11:26 am) tagman (Feb 10, 2007 12:56 pm) and 2 more... lexusguy (Feb 12, 2007 2:18 am)
#23882 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [tagman] by mikeivan Feb 10, 2007 (6:51 am)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 09, 2007 11:05 pm) Thanks for these test drive reports, very informative. Could you post the window sticker price for these testers? Interestingly, coming from an LS 430, I thought the 460 steering was more responsive, of course, I have never driven a Porsche. Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 10, 2007 9:23 am) tagman (Feb 10, 2007 9:24 am)
#23883 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [tagman] by lexusguy Feb 10, 2007 (7:49 am)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 09, 2007 11:05 pm) Have you tried the Maserati before? If not, I would highly recommend a test drive, especially now that it's available with the world's best autobox. Replies to this message: pat (Feb 10, 2007 8:54 am) tagman (Feb 10, 2007 9:04 am) pat (Feb 11, 2007 5:30 am)
#23884 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [lexusguy] by pat HOST Feb 10, 2007 (8:54 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 10, 2007 7:49 am) Oh thanks for reminding me. You folks should check this out: First Drive: 2007 Maserati Quattroporte Automatica I tried to post that link yesterday and had a problem, then forgot it. What do you think?
#23885 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [lexusguy] by tagman Feb 10, 2007 (9:04 am)
Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 10, 2007 7:49 am) Great idea, lexusguy! Quite some time ago, we had briefly discussed driving the Q, but the tranny was always the deal-killer... until now. The new Ferrari- styled ZF 6-speed is exactly what the doctor ordered for that car. After I test drive the Audi A8L and the BMW 7-series, perhaps the Q! Even though I'm not going to buy one of these cars at this point, I'm having fun driving them. I usually do make a point to eventually drive most cars, but I think I have Pat to thank for being the catalyst this time around. TagMan Replies to this message: pat (Feb 11, 2007 5:30 am)
#23886 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [mikeivan] by tagman Feb 10, 2007 (9:23 am)
Replying to: mikeivan (Feb 10, 2007 6:51 am) Thanks for these test drive reports, very informative. Could you post the window sticker price for these testers? Interestingly, coming from an LS 430, I thought the 460 steering was more responsive, of course, I have never driven a Porsche. You're welcome, Mike... you owe it to yourself to drive a Porsche. Also, I suggest that you drive the S-Class if you haven't done so. If you noticed the difference between the LS430 and the LS460, then you will definately notice the clear difference between the way the S550 drives and the way the LS460L drives... a difference I believe that most drivers would just naturally feel and appreciate. That said, there may be other reasons to still prefer the LS over the S550, so I'm not trying to start any debate here. I just highly doubt that the LS's steering would ever be one of those reasons to choose it over an S-Class. TagMan
#23887 of 24700 Re: Thanks again for your post, Tag! [mikeivan] by tagman Feb 10, 2007 (9:24 am)
Replying to: mikeivan (Feb 10, 2007 6:51 am) Thanks for these test drive reports, very informative. Could you post the window sticker price for these testers? Interestingly, coming from an LS 430, I thought the 460 steering was more responsive, of course, I have never driven a Porsche. You're welcome, Mike... you owe it to yourself to drive a Porsche. Also, I suggest that you drive the S-Class if you haven't done so. If you noticed the difference between the LS430 and the LS460, then you will definately notice the clear difference between the way the S550 drives and the way the LS460L drives... a difference I believe that most drivers would just naturally feel and appreciate. That said, there may be other reasons for you to still prefer the LS over the S550, so I'm not trying to start any debate here. I just highly doubt that the LS's steering would ever be one of those reasons to choose it over an S-Class... the opposite would be more realistic. TagMan
#23888 of 24700 Re: The Mercedes S550 Test Drive [houdini1] by tagman Feb 10, 2007 (10:08 am)
Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 10, 2007 5:36 am) Good review but I am still laughing about that Mercedes Command Knob!!! Is that actually what they call it? I can picture a Saturday Night Live skit based around the Command Knob!! Yes, the system is actually called "COMAND"... spelled with one letter "m". Check it out on their website. I can see the SNL skit, too. The feature built for a total control freak... in total command... who goes crazy after he loses control. LOL. TagMan
#23889 of 24700 Re: Edmunds Most Wanted Sedan Over $60,000 [hpowders] by tagman Feb 10, 2007 (10:11 am)
Replying to: hpowders (Feb 10, 2007 5:52 am) Looking forward to your test drive of Edmunds top pick, the Audi A8, which would be the only HELC I myself would be interested in driving. Yeah, that one should be interesting. I'm looking forward to driving the A8L myself... although I'd love to drive the S8 if there is one available. That might be a seperate event in the future. TagMan Replies to this message: dewey (Feb 10, 2007 11:26 am) tagman (Feb 10, 2007 12:56 pm) anthonyp (Feb 10, 2007 6:00 pm) brightness04 (Feb 10, 2007 7:41 pm) lexusguy (Feb 12, 2007 2:18 am)
#23890 of 24700 Re: Edmunds Most Wanted Sedan Over $60,000 [tagman] by dewey Feb 10, 2007 (11:26 am)
Replying to: tagman (Feb 10, 2007 10:11 am) Great review Tagman, Did you notice what MT noticed about the S550's transmission: The world's first seven-speed auto (trumped almost immediately by Toyota, which put an eight-speeder into the new Lexus LS 460) sounds impressive over a martini at the country club, but out on the road you can become aware of the transmission constantly shuffling through the ratios to find the optimum one. Also I agree with you about the rear of the S550. Too much ostentatious bling IMO. It seems MB is trying to go out of their way to point out that the S Class shares some DNA with their Maybach. Your Porsche 911 Carrera for weekends (although I love my BMW335i for weekdays and weekends--cant think of a better sedan?) and my wife's BMW 5 series touring for family outings/shopping is all what I want and need in my garage. Never liked LWB cars to begin with. But if I had a choice it would be a 7 series hands down! The best handler among the HELC bunch despite its uninviting austere interior (I myself am a fan of low profile austerity). Replies to this message: tagman (Feb 10, 2007 12:56 pm) anthonyp (Feb 10, 2007 6:00 pm) brightness04 (Feb 10, 2007 7:41 pm) lexusguy (Feb 12, 2007 2:18 am)