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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: dewey (Feb 08, 2007 8:34 am) Other than the supercharger and the big wheels though, whats the difference between this and a 750Li? Couldn't you just buy one of those and bolt on a supercharger yourself, saving a boatload of cash in the process? |
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Replying to: dewey (Feb 08, 2007 8:34 am) |
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Replying to: dewey (Feb 08, 2007 6:46 am) For the simple reason that I'm not wrong. Anyone who has been old enough to be around and observe the S class pricing for the last couple model cycles could have observed the phenomenom. 7-12 months ago, many posters with short memory problem called me all sorts of names when I said Mustang and 300M selling close to MSRP were only transient phenomena at the start of model cycles, and that Carlos Ghosn was not magician and Nissan was on the verge of a down turn. Well, all three turned out to be true. Model cycles are what drive the car industry. The supposed $20k premium of S over LS simply does not exist in the bulk of a model cycle that lasts 6-8 years. S get severely discounted in the bulk of its model cycle. One has to be quite ignorant of the industry to believe that $20k brand premium.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 08, 2007 8:47 am) 
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Replying to: brightness04 (Feb 08, 2007 10:25 am) Is this your research on how the $20K 07 S Class- 07 LS price premium disappears?  I guess the old cliche applies here--"If somethings sounds too good to be true than in that case it is too good to be true". Or do you have a crystal ball that can tell you how well the LS460 LWB will sell without incentives during the upcoming years? A crystal ball would be required since there have never been LS LWB sales prior to the 07 model.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 08, 2007 8:47 am) The same can be said about every MB AMG model, Audi S and RS models and the upcoming Lexus "F" models. How many BMW 7 Series or MB AMG S Class boy racer tuners have you met lately? And how many BMW 7 series owners want to be confronted with cancelled warranty coverage?
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Replying to: dewey (Feb 08, 2007 11:07 am) I would just be inclined to take his word for what he says. Makes sense to me. Look at the lease deals available at Mercedes for the slow selling R class right now. They are practically giving these things away. I would hate to have to rely of "statistics" when buying a car. I much prefer to use common sense. |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Feb 08, 2007 11:24 am) But we are not talking about an unpopular vehicle like an R Class? Also not every Lexus model can be moved without some tempting incentives. My point is that the $20K difference between the 07 LS and S Class does not disappear unless it can be proven otherwise with actual facts. Even without statistics and at face value the assertion does not wash when both vehicles are hot sellers. |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Feb 08, 2007 5:16 am) Thank you so much for your kind welcome. brightness04, Spain is warm all year round , but right now is snowing on it. Madrid is at the same parallel than New York City. If you come in winter, be prepared to some cold  . Anyhow, nothing to compare to the snow storms of many regions in the USA. Now, a small piece of European news. The best seller brand in the LPS, HELC and luxury SUV niche altogether was BMW followed by Audi in 2005 and 2006. Next came MB. 2005 was the year in which Audi overtook MB. I cannot report the exact figures and its source because I through them away into the waste last week. Regards, Jose |
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An Audi A7? This certainly is not yet confirmed but here is a rendering of a possible A7. Personally I am no fan of 4 door coupes. So Houdini do you think this will sell well in France? How about Kansas?   link title
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