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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#23646 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [designman] by lexusguy

Feb 03, 2007 (8:03 pm)

Replying to: designman (Feb 03, 2007 6:34 pm)
Not long after my older brother came home with a BMW 2002. That was my indoctrination into the world of Euro cars and I never looked at American cars the same way again.
 
In the mid '70s I was driving around in a '62 Austin Healey 3000 MkII. Very different from the Detroit pigs of the day, it was a blast. I don't think I've had more fun in a car since. A nice benefit was the very demanding double-clutch four-speed that meant only I could drive it The only real negative was you basically had to just hope it wouldn't rain, because it would take about 20 minutes to put the top up. Mine was very much like this one, just substitute the light blue for black.
 

#23647 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [lexusguy] by anthonyp

Feb 03, 2007 (8:43 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 03, 2007 8:03 pm)
That brings tears to my eyes, I wanted one so much..Never got one, but ....Tony

#23648 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [anthonyp] by lexusguy

Feb 03, 2007 (8:58 pm)

Replying to: anthonyp (Feb 03, 2007 8:43 pm)
That brings tears to my eyes, I wanted one so much..Never got one, but ....Tony
 
 
Not only did it not have active steering, it had no power assist whatsoever. Great on the highway, but not the most fun car in the world to park. What a great sounding engine, though. It bellowed like some prehistoric beast past 4500rpm, practically begging you to redline it before flipping the overdrive switch.

#23649 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [designman] by tagman

Feb 03, 2007 (9:59 pm)

Replying to: designman (Feb 03, 2007 6:34 pm)
Thanks to Houdini and Tag for starting this. Adds a nice touch.
 
Your welcome, but when I posted that pic of houdini's 1953 Nash Rambler, I had no idea that all this would happen! Very Cool.
 
I just hope Pat doesn't sue us for being OT.
 
I'm willing to bet Pat is getting a chuckle out of this, too, and might even be inclined to post something sentimental.
 
BTW, after seeing that beautiful '62 Austin Healey, I think lexusguy should change his name to luckyguy! WOW!
 
TagMan

#23650 of 24723 Getting up to speed here.. by blkhemi

Feb 04, 2007 (6:45 am)

Sorry fellas for being absent so long, but I couldn't resist hitting the slopes in the Catskills last week and this weekend.
 
Not much has happened around, huh? The same Lexus crowd pushing the same semantics about how the Lexus LS will be the second coming and will be the end of mankind as we old farts know it.
 
Even Dr.Fill has topped himself on relying on Edmunds to make a point. He says that the review was "excellent". Well it's average at best, considering that the same gripes that all other publications have eluded to are still ever present.
 
But the whopper to this whole conundrum is that, if the LS is just that great, and some has said that Edmunds loves the car, then why is it that for the second year in a row, the Audi A8(a 4 year old design compared to a from-sratch 4 month old design) has won the Editor's Choice crown here? Yes, that same obsolete German piece of junk has yet again stolen the LS' show. A pity.
 
On to another subject, altho some may disagree surely, I'll go on record noting that the MB CL550/600 is the best looking big coupe sold on the market right now. And it will only get better when the AMG's go on sale. The CL63 looks absolutely gorgeous. With that said, Merc1 I do share your concern over the look when compared to the AMG. It's like nite and day, but it's premium all the way no matter which variant. The interior is approaching the Audi benchmark.
 
BTW: My first ride was a 50' Mercury Coupe, which coincidently, I still own(big surprise )
 
GO BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#23651 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [lexusguy] by designman

Feb 04, 2007 (7:08 am)

Replying to: lexusguy (Feb 03, 2007 8:58 pm)
Not only did it not have active steering, it had no power assist whatsoever. Great on the highway, but not the most fun car in the world to park.
 
I forgot to mention that my Impala SS didn't have power steering either. It was an option in those days but it was good for exercise. I had two friends with those cool Healeys. One of them had to shake a cable as he turned the ignition key to get the engine started.
 
I have nothing against the Bears, always liked them. But I'm rooting for Indy because Dungy and Manning paid their dues.

#23652 of 24723 Re: Getting up to speed here.. [blkhemi] by drfill

Feb 04, 2007 (7:18 am)

Replying to: blkhemi (Feb 04, 2007 6:45 am)
  Oh, if only it were that simple.
 
  I think that list was compiled before the LS460L made it's impression, and the Mazda3 soundly beat the Civic in comparison.
 
  If words like extraordinary, luscious (!), phenomenal, and drives like a smaller car, which are used prominently in the review, are examples of these semantics, than I apologize.
 
  This extensive list of gripes include:
 
  Grabby, slow brakes (which can be upgraded).
 
  Everyone says they'll buy an A8, it is just so great, but when it's time to sign on the dotted line......
 
  They buy an LS. Why?
 
  Do tell, and talk slow, so I can take notes.
 
  DrFill

#23653 of 24723 Re: Getting up to speed here.. [drfill] by tagman

Feb 04, 2007 (9:16 am)

Replying to: drfill (Feb 04, 2007 7:18 am)
Everyone says they'll buy an A8, it is just so great, but when it's time to sign on the dotted line......
  
  They buy an LS. Why?
 
Reliability and price are the same simple factors that affect sales of appliances and other products.
 
BTW, the A8 is at the very end of its model cycle and will be freshened and improved next year.
 
TagMan

#23654 of 24723 Re: Old Goats Reunion [designman] by tagman

Feb 04, 2007 (9:21 am)

Replying to: designman (Feb 04, 2007 7:08 am)
I have nothing against the Bears, always liked them. But I'm rooting for Indy because Dungy and Manning paid their dues.
 
Likewise. This is Manning's career moment. I'd like to see him get it... add a great chapter to his life.
 
TagMan

#23655 of 24723 Re: Getting up to speed here.. [drfill] by blkhemi

Feb 04, 2007 (9:53 am)

Replying to: drfill (Feb 04, 2007 7:18 am)
No sir, It was said for "all '07 m/y cars, trucks, and SUV's", in which case every Great Lexus model was leftout. That tired old GL took honors for the big utes'. So much for the LX being "best in class".
 
Likewise, I have nothing against the Colts, but it's time for the Bears to be the team they used to be back in the day. It'll be a good match.

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