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Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#23503 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [tagman]
by hpowders
Jan 31, 2007 (9:20 pm)
I'm not really interested in the X6.
Disappointed with the X5. Won't settle for the M_X.
The only HELC listed above that lights my fire is the A8.
As far as BMW goes, I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of the 2008 535i with inline 6 boosted by twin turbos to 300hp available this summer. Should be a lot of fun! But not as much fun as the junior version!
And of course, there will be the BMW diesels.
Very much looking forward to my next choice: BMW or Audi.
Most likely will give back the 545. After all, who wants to buy a car from someone who only changed the oil after 14,000 miles? DUH!!
#23504 of 24723 Re: Audi is the Triple Crown Winner [tagman]
by esf
Jan 31, 2007 (9:38 pm)
Love it. Agrees with the Germans.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23505 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [hpowders]
by esf
Jan 31, 2007 (9:40 pm)
That is a hard decision. What models will you be looking for? A6/5er, A4/3er, or A8/7er (or some other class)?
If it were me...
I would pick a 528i/535i over an A6 3.2, but would buy an A6 4.2 S-Line over a 550i.
I would choose the A4 2.0T S-Line over the 328i, but 335i over the A4 3.2.
A8 is better than the 7 Series in all variants.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23506 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [esf]
by esf
Jan 31, 2007 (9:41 pm)
Wait, I take that back.
I'd take an A6 3.2 over a 528i, just not the 535i.
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
#23507 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [hpowders]
by tagman
Jan 31, 2007 (9:59 pm)
Very much looking forward to my next choice: BMW or Audi.
I think I'm clear about your next vehicle. Those new diesels might show up in time for consideration. And since BMW announced that their sweet 300 hp twin-turbo will be available in the 5-series, there's some more temptation for you. One thing for sure, IMO... I'm betting it's going to be a BMW again.
Most likely will give back the 545. After all, who wants to buy a car from someone who only changed the oil after 14,000 miles?
Yeah, you are so careless and negligent with your 545... Good thing you are leasing... It's obvious that everything in that car will fall apart, and you'll have no choice but to give it up.
I'd even bet the floor boards and back seats are just a mess... littered with old used up Starbucks coffee cups!
TagMan
#23509 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [esf]
by hpowders
Feb 01, 2007 (5:00 am)
If I go the HELC route, it's the A8. No contest.
If I stay with BMW, I bypass the 7, since I get better performance and just about the same "luxury" in the 545.
I would be interested in the new twin turbo 535 and any BMW diesels that come to market in the USA within the next 18 months.
I am not considering any other vehicles.
My 545 lease ends August 1, 2008.
#23510 of 24723 Re: And Let's Not Forget... [tagman]
by hpowders
Feb 01, 2007 (5:14 am)
"Just a mess."
Nah! It's only my wife and myself in the vehicle. Although she does like to eat in the car. Crumbs on her seat and floor.
My wife is a multi-tasker: she can eat and harass me at the same time!
I never eat and drink in the car. Thus, I couldn't care less about BMW's ridiculous cup holders.
I am always amused at folks who concentrate so much on the BMW cup holders. Aren't they missing the point?
#23511 of 24723 Re: Interiors [tagman]
by designman
Feb 01, 2007 (7:06 am)
Yes, the S550 interior has its merits--curves. I find it tolerable, not desirable. Some of the shapes push my negative buttons. My boss has one. We were talking about it recently. Of course I was gushing with compliments.
I also like the Range Rover and its rectangular matrix arrangement of the controls plus the angular posture of the dash with its forward rake. It's pragmatic. Everything works together without one single element trying to upstage the other.
#23512 of 24723 Re: Interiors [lexusguy]
by designman
Feb 01, 2007 (7:17 am)
You see, this puzzles me. I find the CL centerstack to be one of the most obnoxious elements an interior has ever seen. It is as welcoming as a refrigerator in a living room. Looks like a harcover bowling bag and THOSE LOUVERS REALLY SHOUT, bold and overpowering to the point where any material and build quality are rendered meaningless IMO.
Merc, I need an answer from you on this one, sir. Help me come to terms with it.