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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: LG, RX 300-350 [tagman] by brightness04
Jan 31, 2007 (4:36 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 31, 2007 4:11 pm)

but rather the ultimate real-life typical retail price that results when typical options, packages and accessories are taken into account and added to the MSRP.
 
That doesn't make any sense at all because as we know "rea-life typical retail price" and "MSRP" are two usually completely different numbers. There is no "real life" in "MSRP." If you want to stick with MSRP, forget about "real life."
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Re: LG, RX 300-350 [brightness04] by tagman
Jan 31, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Jan 31, 2007 4:36 pm)

There is no "real life" in "MSRP."
 
LOL... Whatever.
 
Rather than get into semantics, let's just accept Edmunds' criteria and try to not over-analyze it. The MSRP plus "real-life" typical add-ons is the point.
 
TagMan
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Re: LG, RX 300-350 [tagman] by houdini1
Jan 31, 2007 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 31, 2007 12:06 pm)

Therefore the spirit and intention of the $60K price arena is more than met by real-life pricing, and further the GL represents MB's top tier SUV, and that also gives further merit to it's inclusion here. It's pretty darned obvious, for goodness sakes.
 
Fine with me. If that is your criteria then we can also include the Cadillac Escalade ESV at MSRP of $59,000.+, the GS 450h at MSRP of $54,000.+, and even the QX56 at $54,000.+. These all have MSRPs as much or more than where the GL starts,and with your typical add ons they would certainly be over $60,000. So the more the merrier.
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Re: LG, RX 300-350 [houdini1] by tagman
Jan 31, 2007 (5:13 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 31, 2007 5:02 pm)

Mercedes is notorious for adding "options" that really should be standard. Before you know it, the price is easily $5K - $15K or more higher than the base price. It's been one of my criticisms of Mercedes for a long time.
 
Your point is well-taken, but perhaps just to create an argument... I can not be sure. I do not know first hand, without checking further, whether or not those other brands are as notorious with the add-ons as Mercedes is. So, I can't answer definitively whether or not their inclusion would be appropriate.
 
I do know that the GL is close enough for me, considering the way the MSRP plus add-ons will so easily put it in the $60's and $70's, and that it represents the top-tiered SUV.
 
That's my opinion on this. Try others and see what they think. Either way, unless the host says it is forbidden, I will like to continue to discuss it from time to time, as we have been doing all along without any problems.
 
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And Let's Not Forget... by hpowders
Jan 31, 2007 (5:16 pm)
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the fabulous BMW 550 which starts stripped at $58,500 and can be had for a much more likely $70,000 "real-life" MSRP. The only reason it doesn't qualify here is because the BMW 7 is "higher-end." Makes me almost ashamed to drive "my" 545!
 
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Slightly off topic, but by drfill
Jan 31, 2007 (5:28 pm)
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Is anyone else here somewhat disappointed in Nicholas Cage being cast as "Ghost Rider"? He ruined "Gone in 60 Seconds".
 
   Was kinda hoping this would be Artie Lange's next vehicle....
 
   DrFill
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Re: And Let's Not Forget... [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 31, 2007 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 31, 2007 5:16 pm)

And before you know it, the X6 will be at a dealer near you.
 
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Audi is the Triple Crown Winner by tagman
Jan 31, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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Perhaps global automotive news matters to some and not to others, but for those that are interested:
 
Audi has recorded a triple success in the “auto motor und sport” readers’ poll: readers of the popular car magazine voted the A3, A6 and Audi Q7 into first place in their respective classes, crowning them with “Best Cars” titles for 2007. This continues Audi’s history of success in one of the most important readers’ polls in the automotive industry.
 
This was the first time that the Audi Q7 has taken part in the poll, and despite fierce competition it was awarded the most votes. It represents a new standard in the SUV segment. The Audi brand’s first SUV stands out thanks to its outstanding on-road performance, good off-road characteristics, expressive design and the quality characteristic of Audi. And it is not just readers of auto motor und sport who hold these properties in high esteem; the Q7 has also enjoyed great success with customers.
 
The winner in the executive class, the Audi A6, has been the market leader in its segment in Germany for two years now. The elegant and sporty A6 is available as both a saloon and an Avant. In 2006, Audi added the sporty S6 and the A6 allroad quattro to this successful model line.
 
The Audi A3 was voted top of the compact class for the third time. Audi demonstrates with the A3 how it is possible to perfectly unite premium standards with compact dimensions in a smaller vehicle class. The A3 is available in three-door and Sportback versions, and also in the shape of the S3.

 
Congratulations to Audi!
 
TagMan
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Re: And Let's Not Forget... [tagman] by hpowders
Jan 31, 2007 (8:20 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 31, 2007 6:19 pm)

I'm not really interested in the X6.
 
Disappointed with the X5. Won't settle for the M_X.
 
The only HELC listed above that lights my fire is the A8.
 
As far as BMW goes, I'm eagerly anticipating the arrival of the 2008 535i with inline 6 boosted by twin turbos to 300hp available this summer. Should be a lot of fun! But not as much fun as the junior version!
 
And of course, there will be the BMW diesels.
 
Very much looking forward to my next choice: BMW or Audi.
 
Most likely will give back the 545. After all, who wants to buy a car from someone who only changed the oil after 14,000 miles? DUH!!
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Re: Audi is the Triple Crown Winner [tagman] by esf
Jan 31, 2007 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 31, 2007 8:19 pm)

Love it. Agrees with the Germans.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330

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