Edmunds.com | Inside Line | Auto Observer Your Account | Help | Directory
You are here:
![[F]](http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/townhall/webxicons/site.gif){kind=small}
Forums
Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
|
Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 1:22 pm) Saves me some time going to the copyright office! 
|
|
|
If anyone is looking for a GMID for a Buick contact me. acavins  sewell.com
|
|
|
Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 12:07 pm) I think everyone here including myself agrees with you. Real wood should be used in each and every car in this segment. Acura is not in this segment. I would further add however, that the person who originated this thread intended that the vehicles in this segment also have a certain level of performance as well accompanied with that luxury. No, it's not about being a track star on the weekends but geez- how about a little excitement? After all, that is what this thread is about right? Talking about high end luxury performance vehicles - not appliances. Of all the cars listed listed above, you can guess which ones seriously lack in that department. Different strokes for different folks- nothing wrong with that. But if it came down to choosing real wood coupled w/ lackluster performance vs the alternative, I choose the latter.
|
|
|
Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 12:40 pm) Yes. I directed the body style question to our host, Pat, after the creation of the HELC title and the destruction of the HELM title... Pat's answer was very reasonable, IMO... if it's high end, it's OK, any body style. I think we all know from the host's feedback that when the posts go beyond an occasional remark about lower-tiered vehicles, to actually discussing those lower-tiered vehicles, that's when the host steps in. There hasn't been intervention when we've posted about high end cars, SUV's or sports cars, or even for that matter an occasional post about a lower-tiered vehicle if there is some sort of relevancy. Truth, IMO, is that the host has been generous, and we are the ones shooting ourselves in the foot on occasion... and I'm as guilty as the next guy. Obviously, the key words here are simply "HIGH END". TagMan |
|
|
Replying to: ggesq (Jan 30, 2007 2:11 pm) That I agree with. the person who originated this thread intended that the vehicles in this segment also have a certain level of performance as well accompanied with that luxury. No, it's not about being a track star on the weekends but geez- how about a little excitement? "Performance" means different things to different people. Is RR a HELC? If it isn't, then it's an Ultra-HELC. It has "performance" in the sense of a good-sized engine and decent accelaration, but not in the all senses of "performance" (which is how I think you meant the word) - such as "handling". So if you're insinuating that and LS for instance isn't a HELC, I disagree. Unless you want to exclude RR too?
|
|
|
Replying to: tagman (Jan 30, 2007 2:19 pm)
|
|
|
Replying to: ggesq (Jan 30, 2007 2:11 pm) ggesq, Not exactly. I agree with your perspective as usual, but the performance aspect of this thread is actually not an integral part of the forum. There is, however, another forum that does discuss "Luxury Performance Sedans"... it is here: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.ef26837?displayRecent That doesn't mean we can't discuss performance, because we do. It just means that some of the high end cars can be more like the appliance you refer to and still be included.  TagMan |
|
|
Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 2:30 pm) Yes. TagMan |
|
|
|
|
Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 2:28 pm) Performance for HELC, if there is "performance" at all, should mean "accelerating with authority," the goold old Rolls-Royce, and later MB 600 series marketting angle. A 4500+lb car on 120" wheelbase is really not designed for weekend autocross
|
|
One, for a non-HELC marque, Acura sure is getting a lot of airtime here!  And #2, Tag, the Benz SL is iconic, and deserving of true lust amongst even the most hardened driving enthusiast. I am not very impressed with the interior, since this seems to be the week's hot-button topic, and I do find the SC430 considerably more posh. The SL is austere in comparison. But it makes up for it in exterior styling, where it has an advantage. The Benz SL is pure style, but it is not for me, as I wouldn't even think of using a slushbox as my daily driver. And, as I've said, luxury cars are interesting, but not necessarily for me. In a perfect world, I'd have the Mazda3 sedan built with the MazdaSpeed engine and upgrades, thereby rendering cars like the 330i obsolete.  The Benz would be an awesome weekend toy, doh! DrFill
|
|
New? Join Now!
Forum Tools
Search Forums
Browse by Vehicle
2011 Audi A8
2010 BMW 7 Series
2008 Jaguar XJ-Series
2010 Lexus LS 460
2010 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
2006 Volkswagen Phaeton
2009 Maserati Quattroporte
2010 Mercedes-Benz CL-Class
Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
Today's Chats
