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High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages,  Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: Acura [pat] by syswei
Jan 30, 2007 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Jan 30, 2007 11:42 am)

If I'm not mistaken - which I could be - no Acura qualifies as a high end luxury vehicle. Am I wrong?
 
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When it comes to sedans and SUVs, but not sports cars, I think of real wood as being a requirement for being considered a true "luxury" vehicle.
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Re: Acura [syswei] by hpowders
Jan 30, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 12:07 pm)

I don't believe a racing car is exactly what the HELCers usually have in mind. Something usually a bit more sedate and conservative-enveloped in fine Corinthian leather and wood from the same premium-fertilized tree.
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Re: Acura [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 30, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 30, 2007 12:13 pm)

I agree with you hpowders, even though we talk about sportier high-end cars from time to time, and appropriately so... HELCers have this in mind... the finest materials and workmanship, luxurious in nature, classy styling, good design execution, good driving dynamics, and creature comforts are all part of the HELC picture. Beyond those physical attributes are sometimes image attributes as well... prestige, status, etc.
 
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Re: Acura [tagman] by hpowders
Jan 30, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 30, 2007 12:21 pm)

I was of course well aware of that fine Acura machine and sure wouldn't turn one down if offered, but it just doesn't fit the gestalt of what many high-enders associate as a HELV.
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Re: Acura [tagman] by houdini1
Jan 30, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 30, 2007 11:55 am)

Pat, no the MDX and the RL certainly do not qualify. Sometimes cars like these are mentioned just for comparison sake and for something to measure against, not because there is a lot of interest here. Just my take on why they come up from time to time.
 
Fact is, I'm just as interested in the various posters and their opinions as the actual cars anyway. But I will do my best to stick to the rules.
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Re: Acura [houdini1] by tagman
Jan 30, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 30, 2007 12:28 pm)

...the MDX and the RL certainly do not qualify. Sometimes cars like these are mentioned just for comparison sake and for something to measure against, not because there is a lot of interest here. Just my take on why they come up from time to time.
 
Exactly! The posts that I placed about the Acura interiors, for example, was only in response to the blatant statement by Lexusguy that Acura has NEVER made a decent interior and that Lexus interiors were so much better. Well, as it turned out, other than the wood, they were all darned similar... incredibly similar!
 
But I will do my best to stick to the rules.
 
Pat, I'll also be more careful. Sorry.
 
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Okay by pat HOST
Jan 30, 2007 (12:35 pm)
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Now that everyone has defended and/or apologized for his postings about Acuras, let's move on - 'kay?
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Re: Acura [hpowders] by syswei
Jan 30, 2007 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 30, 2007 12:13 pm)

IMHO, "cars" as used in the forum title is an inclusive term, meant to include not just sedans, but also SUVs and sport cars.
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Re: Acura [syswei] by hpowders
Jan 30, 2007 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 30, 2007 12:40 pm)

If what you say is correct, the thread should probably be renamed HELV instead of HELC.
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Re: Acura [hpowders] by syswei
Jan 30, 2007 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 30, 2007 1:18 pm)

The change from HELV to HELC was a "management idea". IMHO motivated by commercial reasons....wanting to show up more often in web searches. I guess they're entitled.

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