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24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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are being posted in invisible ink. Again - high end cars and high end car subjects are the topic. The personally directed posts have no place here. |
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Replying to: brightness04 (Jan 25, 2007 11:27 am) Is that so? Show me a HELC in Mainland China with the phenemonal volume and sales growth of the Audi A8? 75 percent growth for the A8 is amazing for this emerging market and there are no ifs and buts about it! Audi is the market leader by some distance in the Chinese premium segment, and it is the fastest-growing premium brand,” states Ralph Weyler, Board Member for Marketing and Sales at Audi. link title 2) These cars are not usually bought by "hard working affluent individuals." BUNK! My wife's brothers are all business owners in China and are making a fist load of money. They dont have to rely on bribes for a livelihood. Your bureaucratic Maoist conception of China is dated by a few decades. You want proof. Please note the following paragraph from Businessweek. Businessmen not Bureaucrats are mentioned as Rolls Royce owners. , guess what? Rolls-Royce's sales are up 50% this year, about double the pace of China's overall luxury segment. China is now Roll-Royce's third biggest market after the U.S. and Britain, and the company's fastest growing one. A big reason is the rapid wealth accumulation in rich coastal markets such as Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen, where newly rich businessmen are buying Phantoms loaded with expensive extras to get around town in style. And I repeat most HELCs especially A8s in Mainland China are driven mainly by successful businessmen not bureaucrats. As in the case with Rolls Royces. Also there is nothing wrong with being a high paid bureaucrat with a nice car as there is nothing wrong with a US executive with company cars. You make all government employed people sound like riff raff and rabble. In fact there are quite a few self indulgent corrupt types in the corporate world too. ( In USA and China)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 25, 2007 11:59 am) As time goes, there will be many reviews of this great car, the Audi R8. Initially, most all reviews are almost stellar. This must be one incredible car. However, it will never be perfect, as no car can be... and there will always be those that find different things to nit-pick about. The general consensus is what I like to go by. The vast majority, in other words. So, after many more reviews are done, we'll have a darned clear picture of what the Audi R8 is really about. So far, it's a phenomenal car. TagMan |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 25, 2007 11:12 am) There are hopeful signs of a future Porsche in my case. Porsche Canada will reduce prices of various models by 3 percent to reflect the strengths of the Canadian dollars. That is music to my ears.
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Where oh where are the reviews that claim that a LS is a driver's delight? The fact that there are almost as many gadgets in the back seat as the front tells you the Lexus LS460 was made for the chauffeur-driven segment of our society. link title
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 25, 2007 5:16 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 25, 2007 5:41 pm) You do realize that this is a country where the #1 and #2 sellers are pick-up trucks, and #3 is the Toyota Camry. The average American could really care less about accelerating, or braking, or cornering, or styling. We're not the land of great taste in automobiles.
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We have come to the conclusion that Dr.Fill can still cause such a rift among the peaceful and usually cordial posters on this thread. So let's try as we might and put this Audi V. The World thing to rest. VW/Audi and GM owns the Chinese market, and are ever so prevelant in the next door neighbors streets, Japan. With that said, and with the Chinese market on the move to become #1 by decade's end/'11, they really do matter. The A8 is one of the nicest vehicle that are on the marketplace as of now. It's not the best in class(the new S-Class owns that title), but judging from it's new Pacific-esque competitor, it's still got it. Some claim to be a "numbers guru", claiming that "I have all of the numbers of China", WHATEVER. The fact of the matter is there is one HELC that is indigenous to that area of the world that is mysteriously absent, wonder what it could that be? At least the Audi does very well in it's homeland. Out of the repect for our wonderful HOST, and for the respect of everyday posters and potential ones, can we please end this "I hate Audi" debate once and for all. BTW: I will be receiving a fully opted XJR by March 30th. That's right, I finally did it. Many restless nights fighting over the MB and Jag. But the deal was much sweeter with the XJR. |
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was the winding road piece of interest to you, or anybody else for that matter? Sorry to beat a dead horse, but man that engine sounds unbelievable. I know, I know, as do most exotics.
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