High End Luxury Cars

24699 messages, Last post on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#23222 of 24699 Re: I'll go a round with you, Hemi. [merc1] by lexusguy Jan 25, 2007 (11:54 am)
Replying to: merc1 (Jan 25, 2007 3:07 am) Actually the GS400 used to beat all those cars except the 540i in most comparos back then. Hmm, because the only comparison I can remember of the four, the GS was last. I don't remember if it was MT or C&D, but they didn't like it. Replies to this message: merc1 (Jan 25, 2007 9:11 pm)
#23223 of 24699 Re: AutoWeek's review of the Audi R8 [tagman] by houdini1 Jan 25, 2007 (11:59 am)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 25, 2007 11:22 am) Why would anyone build a great car like this and then put in "overboosted power steering with no feel and no feedback"? Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 25, 2007 3:58 pm)
#23224 of 24699 Brightness by dhamilton Jan 25, 2007 (12:07 pm)
"Roughly $50k US, after exchange rate".???????????? Try $64 US with no options. May want to find another calculator
#23226 of 24699 Personally directed posts by pat HOST Jan 25, 2007 (3:35 pm)
are being posted in invisible ink. Again - high end cars and high end car subjects are the topic. The personally directed posts have no place here.
#23227 of 24699 Re: Well, [brightness04] by dewey Jan 25, 2007 (3:56 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Jan 25, 2007 11:27 am) 1) A8 can indeed garner high double digit growth for a few years; many other models from other manufacturers did the same thing. High per centage growth is easy when the base is small. Is that so? Show me a HELC in Mainland China with the phenemonal volume and sales growth of the Audi A8? 75 percent growth for the A8 is amazing for this emerging market and there are no ifs and buts about it! *Audi is the market leader by some distance in the Chinese premium segment, and it is the fastest-growing premium brand,” states Ralph Weyler, Board Member for Marketing and Sales at Audi.* link title 2) These cars are not usually bought by "hard working affluent individuals." BUNK! My wife's brothers are all business owners in China and are making a fist load of money. They dont have to rely on bribes for a livelihood. Your bureaucratic Maoist conception of China is dated by a few decades. You want proof. Please note the following paragraph from Businessweek. Businessmen not Bureaucrats are mentioned as Rolls Royce owners. , guess what? Rolls-Royce's sales are up 50% this year, about double the pace of China's overall luxury segment. China is now Roll-Royce's third biggest market after the U.S. and Britain, and the company's fastest growing one. A big reason is the rapid wealth accumulation in rich coastal markets such as Beijing, Shanghai, and Shenzhen, where newly rich businessmen are buying Phantoms loaded with expensive extras to get around town in style. And I repeat most HELCs especially A8s in Mainland China are driven mainly by successful businessmen not bureaucrats. As in the case with Rolls Royces. Also there is nothing wrong with being a high paid bureaucrat with a nice car as there is nothing wrong with a US executive with company cars. You make all government employed people sound like riff raff and rabble. In fact there are quite a few self indulgent corrupt types in the corporate world too. ( In USA and China) Replies to this message: brightness04 (Jan 30, 2007 7:36 am)
#23228 of 24699 Re: AutoWeek's review of the Audi R8 [houdini1] by tagman Jan 25, 2007 (3:58 pm)
Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 25, 2007 11:59 am) Why would anyone build a great car like this and then put in "overboosted power steering with no feel and no feedback"? As time goes, there will be many reviews of this great car, the Audi R8. Initially, most all reviews are almost stellar. This must be one incredible car. However, it will never be perfect, as no car can be... and there will always be those that find different things to nit-pick about. The general consensus is what I like to go by. The vast majority, in other words. So, after many more reviews are done, we'll have a darned clear picture of what the Audi R8 is really about. So far, it's a phenomenal car. TagMan
#23229 of 24699 Re: Report of Incredible Porsche Profitability [tagman] by dewey Jan 25, 2007 (4:08 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 25, 2007 11:12 am) Thank you, Porsche!!!... I'm having a blast! There are hopeful signs of a future Porsche in my case. Porsche Canada will reduce prices of various models by 3 percent to reflect the strengths of the Canadian dollars. That is music to my ears. Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 25, 2007 6:41 pm)
#23231 of 24699 Lexus LS is a Chauffeur's Delight by dewey Jan 25, 2007 (5:16 pm)
Where oh where are the reviews that claim that a LS is a driver's delight? The fact that there are almost as many gadgets in the back seat as the front tells you the Lexus LS460 was made for the chauffeur-driven segment of our society. link title Replies to this message: houdini1 (Jan 25, 2007 5:41 pm) lexusguy (Jan 25, 2007 5:49 pm) houdini1 (Jan 25, 2007 7:16 pm) and 4 more...