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24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 24, 2007 7:27 pm)
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jan 24, 2007 7:32 pm) Ye of little knowledge of how the European system works. Brightness fails to realize that, if it's not 4 or 6 cylinders or the all important diesel in Europe, it ain't gonna happen, and hence the LS paltry sales, but alas, that doesn't matter seeing how the S350(420 CDI), the 735i(735iD), and the A8(both 3.6L V6 and 4.2L TDI) account for 90% of all sales for each company.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 24, 2007 7:44 pm) I am an American at last check and I along with 95% of us don't care for small portions 
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 24, 2007 5:04 pm) The S8 is a genuine masterpiece, IMO. TagMan
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 24, 2007 4:43 pm) The A6 and GS is a wash, since neither has done much damage in the market place, or in comparisons. I've been saying this for years about the GS. It has once again fallen down in the segment it was supposed to dominate. The A6, well....there is at least the S6 to crow about. The A8 has been getting beaten rather easily by the LS in sales AND comparisons by the LS for MANY years, until this anomaly of a test, run by the once-reliable C&D. Sales yes, comparisons, not quite so easily. Motor Trend put the A8L over the LS430 in the past also. If you think a VW Rabbit is superior to a Mazda3, please put credence into this test. Has nothing to do with anything here, but I guess you're implying that C&D are off their rocker now right? Amazing what a spectacular LS460L comparo loss can do. M
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I think all this attention to Audi (somewhat in response to Doc's jabbing) is deserved. Audi is truly in the earliest stages of a large ascention in this U.S. market, as I posted to the Doc. There will be some newer and even better things to come from Audi in the future. We can bank on it. Audi sales will grow significantly for years to come. And deservedly, as their vehicles are quality built. Their interiors are darned near as good as anyone's and better than most. They represent genuine value, IMO... not hype value. So all this attention to Audi?... Richly deserved. TagMan |
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 24, 2007 7:00 pm) Ignorance often breeds arrogance. I happen to have a decent working knowledge in this field. What a proof? Here's a link from Audi's own website: http://www.audi.ie/audi/ie/en2/about_audi_ag/news/press_releases/Audi_continues_- - to_thrive_in_China.html As you can see, in 2005, total Audi A8 import into Mainland China and Hongkong combined was 2108 units. Many executives here in North America do not view their company cars as bribes. Instead they view them as being earned. The difference is that many of the people receiving the bribe of A8 there are not company executives at factories making Audi's, but government officials or managers of government-owned enterprises who are either in a position of licensing and authorizing factory openings or in a position of buying a fleet of A6's for taxi services. That's called a bribe, regardless which country we are talking about. Granted, Audi is not a pioneer in this field. MB was known for giving S class as bribes to third world countries' officials (including those of China) for buying their buses and trucks with public funds.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 24, 2007 7:27 pm) Here's the crux of the issue: worldwide A8 sales is less than LS sales in the US alone! despite the fact that the majority of A8's sold worldwide are the lowly V6 variants that wouldn't even qualify for HELC. Think about that the next time anyone wants to brag about Audi worldwide sales volume. |
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Replying to: dhamilton (Jan 24, 2007 7:32 pm) Roughly $50k US, after exchange rate. Who would be stupid enough to try to bribe someone with something that nobody wants? That is the lamest story I've ever heard in my life. Ever heard "something is better than nothing"? Even the A8 is better than some old Chinese branded jallopies that the bureacrats otherwise would have to ride. Did the insane asylums throw an in house tent sale on gate keys? Looks like it. As far as HELC models are concerned, A8 has a long way to go before getting past 7 and S, and then LS sales. In the most recent month, A8 sold an order of magnitude less than LS! What planet are these wankers living on? |
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