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You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens

What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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If I was buying auto.... by hpowders
Jan 24, 2007 (10:34 am)
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stocks at this time, I would be investing in Porsche, BMW and Daimler-Benz shares.
I would be shorting Toyota aggressively.
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Re: If I was buying auto.... [hpowders] by dewey
Jan 24, 2007 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 24, 2007 10:34 am)

The only way you can invest in the success of Audi is by buying VW shares
 
Stock-wise Daimler Chrysler DCX is at a 52 week high as of today. Last year in the HELM forum I pointed out that DXC is a good stock pick due to a MB turnaround and was ridiculed for suggesting such a hopeless stock. The stock would be even higher if it were not for the current misfortunes of Chrysler
 
Short-selling Toyota? Not yet. Wait until the day when DrFill says something negative about Toyota/Lexus and that will be the day to short-sell TMC
 
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Re: If I was buying auto.... [dewey] by hpowders
Jan 24, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 24, 2007 10:48 am)

Good point. I wish Audi was a stand-alone company. I hate VW, so I wouldn't buy the stock.
 
As for shorting Toyota, I look at the Edmunds' problems threads for all their affiliated vehicles and I notice the complaints are mounting. They are clearly losing the bullet-proof reliability reputation.
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I really by dhamilton
Jan 24, 2007 (12:50 pm)
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don't get what the fuss is about Doc.
 
He gave Lexus a complement, they are the bulls eye here.
 
It's a global economy, we should all expand our "world view" a bit. Most people can do this [sans the current administration]
 
A recent article predicted Audi being the worlds #1 premier auto maker by 2015. I agree. [ If that happens, I probably won't like them at that point, because the cars will be so watered down for mass appeal.]
 
Bottom line Doc
1. You enjoyed driving an SC around a track. [your honor, the defense rests.]
2. The Germans engineer, the Japanese mass produce. And compared to Audi's, Lexus drive like amassed produce.
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [designman] by lexusguy
Jan 24, 2007 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: designman (Jan 24, 2007 9:21 am)

What I've been seeing lately is a bunch of ads with owners talking about how great their new S-class is. Not impressed. While watching, I couldn't help but think of the movie ads where they drag the audience in front of the camera. That almost always means the movie is either terrible, or has been a total flop, or both. Mercedes can do better.
 
These aren't as bad as trying to turn the C230 into a "hip" car that you'll see drag racing at a stoplight, but close.
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [lexusguy] by merc1
Jan 24, 2007 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 24, 2007 1:02 pm)

Ah come on LG those ads aren't that bad, they're pretty good IMO. The one guy that said he's always wanted a Mercedes reminded me of me.
 
We know the S hasn't been anything near a flop, but the total opposite.
 
I've seen much worse ads, plus the S looks really good in those ads.
 
M
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [merc1] by houdini1
Jan 24, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 24, 2007 1:31 pm)

Merc, thanks for the recent pics of the car show. Also thanks for the pic of the Maybach. That thing is gorgeous. I'm not sure about the 4 barrel headlights but everything else I like. I set it as my new desk top image. Such a clean simple design. Give me some Lexus underpinings and a price around $60,000. and I would order one today.
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Re: Good Job, Merc [drfill] by houdini1
Jan 24, 2007 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 24, 2007 7:09 am)

Nice assessment Doc. Stick to your guns. Many of us really do understand your P.O.V.
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Dewey by drfill
Jan 24, 2007 (3:17 pm)
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   Oh, contrare, Dewey. We do share "common ground".
 
   You missed our most obvious, the greatest, love of all.
 
   That of the cherished manual tranny, which will have to pried from my cold, dead hand.
 
   Now that we have finally met. How you doin'?
 
   Oh....and now would be a good time to sell, since I have bashed the IS350 consistently for not offering a stick. Same goes for the IS-F. Not luvin' it, with the 10th-gradeer body kit. Not exactly tasteful.
 
   DrFill
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D-man by drfill
Jan 24, 2007 (3:22 pm)
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Whew, what a bag of bluster. You wouldn’t be singing that tune if Lexus had a big footprint in Europe and you know it. And Lexus isn’t the “Football of Cars” in the US. If anything it’s the “Soap Opera of Cars.” I guess it’s back to sales and waving pom-poms. Surely you can find a better way to promote Lexus.
 
    Ah, yes, D-man. How are you?
 
    I am fine, thanks.
 
    Looks like you have also forgotten why I'm here. I am the corporate "plant".
 
    I also go by a code name : "Master of the Obvious".
 
    Alas, Lexus doesn't need any promotional help. Audi basically put out a press release of Envy recently. I will read it whenever I need a good tickle!
 
    DrFill

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