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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Mercedes S Advertising by designman
Jan 24, 2007 (9:21 am)
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There has been a heavy wave of Mercedes S advertising on TV in the New York area. Has this also been the case around the rest of the country? The message is safety, quality and heritage.
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Doc by tagman
Jan 24, 2007 (9:33 am)
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Doc,
Let me get this. Lexus has a tiny share of the European market, but you call them number one because of their sales in good 'ol U.S.A. Audi has small share of U.S.A. market, but their collosal sales in Europe don't mean anything to you???
 
The REAL truth is that Audi is a global success and is just now in the early stages of what is a gigantic ascention in this U.S. market. I'll bet you on this. If you don't think so, just wait and watch. Audi is coming on strong, Doc... very strong... like a freight train.
 
If you don't believe me, just watch the yearly sales data as time goes by.
 
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If I was buying auto.... by hpowders
Jan 24, 2007 (10:34 am)
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stocks at this time, I would be investing in Porsche, BMW and Daimler-Benz shares.
I would be shorting Toyota aggressively.
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Re: If I was buying auto.... [hpowders] by dewey
Jan 24, 2007 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 24, 2007 10:34 am)

The only way you can invest in the success of Audi is by buying VW shares
 
Stock-wise Daimler Chrysler DCX is at a 52 week high as of today. Last year in the HELM forum I pointed out that DXC is a good stock pick due to a MB turnaround and was ridiculed for suggesting such a hopeless stock. The stock would be even higher if it were not for the current misfortunes of Chrysler
 
Short-selling Toyota? Not yet. Wait until the day when DrFill says something negative about Toyota/Lexus and that will be the day to short-sell TMC
 
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Re: If I was buying auto.... [dewey] by hpowders
Jan 24, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 24, 2007 10:48 am)

Good point. I wish Audi was a stand-alone company. I hate VW, so I wouldn't buy the stock.
 
As for shorting Toyota, I look at the Edmunds' problems threads for all their affiliated vehicles and I notice the complaints are mounting. They are clearly losing the bullet-proof reliability reputation.
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I really by dhamilton
Jan 24, 2007 (12:50 pm)
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don't get what the fuss is about Doc.
 
He gave Lexus a complement, they are the bulls eye here.
 
It's a global economy, we should all expand our "world view" a bit. Most people can do this [sans the current administration]
 
A recent article predicted Audi being the worlds #1 premier auto maker by 2015. I agree. [ If that happens, I probably won't like them at that point, because the cars will be so watered down for mass appeal.]
 
Bottom line Doc
1. You enjoyed driving an SC around a track. [your honor, the defense rests.]
2. The Germans engineer, the Japanese mass produce. And compared to Audi's, Lexus drive like amassed produce.
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [designman] by lexusguy
Jan 24, 2007 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: designman (Jan 24, 2007 9:21 am)

What I've been seeing lately is a bunch of ads with owners talking about how great their new S-class is. Not impressed. While watching, I couldn't help but think of the movie ads where they drag the audience in front of the camera. That almost always means the movie is either terrible, or has been a total flop, or both. Mercedes can do better.
 
These aren't as bad as trying to turn the C230 into a "hip" car that you'll see drag racing at a stoplight, but close.
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [lexusguy] by merc1
Jan 24, 2007 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 24, 2007 1:02 pm)

Ah come on LG those ads aren't that bad, they're pretty good IMO. The one guy that said he's always wanted a Mercedes reminded me of me.
 
We know the S hasn't been anything near a flop, but the total opposite.
 
I've seen much worse ads, plus the S looks really good in those ads.
 
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Re: Mercedes S Advertising [merc1] by houdini1
Jan 24, 2007 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 24, 2007 1:31 pm)

Merc, thanks for the recent pics of the car show. Also thanks for the pic of the Maybach. That thing is gorgeous. I'm not sure about the 4 barrel headlights but everything else I like. I set it as my new desk top image. Such a clean simple design. Give me some Lexus underpinings and a price around $60,000. and I would order one today.
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Re: Good Job, Merc [drfill] by houdini1
Jan 24, 2007 (2:16 pm)
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 24, 2007 7:09 am)

Nice assessment Doc. Stick to your guns. Many of us really do understand your P.O.V.

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