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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 24, 2007 8:21 am) no I really dont know you by now? We are from two different parallel universes. My universe consists of the Stanley and Grey Cups and cars with sporty suspensions equipped and old fashioned manual trannies. Your universe consists of your love for a luxury auto company that is renowned for manufacturing rebadged Toyota SUVs and cars with soft suspensions and slush boxes. Yes you are correct we will never know each others because there will never be a bridge between our universes. |
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 24, 2007 8:21 am) Whew, what a bag of bluster. You wouldn’t be singing that tune if Lexus had a big footprint in Europe and you know it. And Lexus isn’t the “Football of Cars” in the US. If anything it’s the “Soap Opera of Cars.” I guess it’s back to sales and waving pom-poms. Surely you can find a better way to promote Lexus. |
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There has been a heavy wave of Mercedes S advertising on TV in the New York area. Has this also been the case around the rest of the country? The message is safety, quality and heritage.
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Doc, Let me get this. Lexus has a tiny share of the European market, but you call them number one because of their sales in good 'ol U.S.A. Audi has small share of U.S.A. market, but their collosal sales in Europe don't mean anything to you??? The REAL truth is that Audi is a global success and is just now in the early stages of what is a gigantic ascention in this U.S. market. I'll bet you on this. If you don't think so, just wait and watch. Audi is coming on strong, Doc... very strong... like a freight train. If you don't believe me, just watch the yearly sales data as time goes by. TagMan
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stocks at this time, I would be investing in Porsche, BMW and Daimler-Benz shares. I would be shorting Toyota aggressively.
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 24, 2007 10:34 am)  Stock-wise Daimler Chrysler DCX is at a 52 week high as of today. Last year in the HELM forum I pointed out that DXC is a good stock pick due to a MB turnaround and was ridiculed for suggesting such a hopeless stock. The stock would be even higher if it were not for the current misfortunes of Chrysler  Short-selling Toyota? Not yet. Wait until the day when DrFill says something negative about Toyota/Lexus and that will be the day to short-sell TMC 
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 24, 2007 10:48 am) As for shorting Toyota, I look at the Edmunds' problems threads for all their affiliated vehicles and I notice the complaints are mounting. They are clearly losing the bullet-proof reliability reputation. |
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don't get what the fuss is about Doc. He gave Lexus a complement, they are the bulls eye here. It's a global economy, we should all expand our "world view" a bit. Most people can do this [sans the current administration] A recent article predicted Audi being the worlds #1 premier auto maker by 2015. I agree. [ If that happens, I probably won't like them at that point, because the cars will be so watered down for mass appeal.] Bottom line Doc 1. You enjoyed driving an SC around a track. [your honor, the defense rests.] 2. The Germans engineer, the Japanese mass produce. And compared to Audi's, Lexus drive like amassed produce. |
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Replying to: designman (Jan 24, 2007 9:21 am) These aren't as bad as trying to turn the C230 into a "hip" car that you'll see drag racing at a stoplight, but close.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 24, 2007 1:02 pm) We know the S hasn't been anything near a flop, but the total opposite. I've seen much worse ads, plus the S looks really good in those ads. M
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