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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: 2007 Detroit Autoshow Report! [merc1] by dewey
Jan 17, 2007 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 15, 2007 1:01 pm)

Merc1,
 
I greatly appreciate your very informative write up about your Detroit visit.
Now where are those photo shots you took there?
 
What amazes me most Merc is not what you wrote but what you did not write. Have you not forgotten the “L” brand that was once the biggest luxury auto brand in USA? The Lincoln MKR IMO is one of the most exciting cars in this year’s auto show. With a mustang RWD chassis this “suicide door” sedan will be one exciting car indeed.
 
Unlike Detroit shows of the past the true knock-out cars this year were non-HELCs. The Chevy Volt and Toyota FT-HS gets my vote. I cant think of any HELC that intrigued me in this year’s show . HELCs are leading indicators of what future mainstream cars will look like and that makes the future quite bleak. A future of radar based cruise control, self-parking, active steering , lane departure warning system…Yawn!!! If that is the future then I will definitley give up driving and ride my bicycle, take a subway or buy a motorcycle.
 
The Jaguar CX-F is as interesting as the MB CLS. When Audi and a few other luxury marques introduce new sedan-coupes this Jag will no longer look as distinct as it does today.
 
Your high opinion about the new X5 is shared here by many forum members. I really don’t understand why? Active steering, idrive and a ridiculous toggle gear switch ? I’ve used such a toggle swith and it made me yearn for the days when the X5 was offered with a manual tranny?(and I never was a fan of a manual X5 to begin with)
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Re: hpowders [tagman] by dewey
Jan 17, 2007 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 17, 2007 9:23 am)

I dont care what my BMW computer says I would never ever change my oil every 15k miles. I religiously change mine ever 5 K miles despite what my computer says.
 
TLC is the secret of my long-term success of owning German cars beyond warranty periods.
 
I hope to keep my current BMW for many years. Personally I prefer long-term relationships with cars and spouses. There is a British ivory tower type who agrees with me:
 
John Chapman a senior lecturer at Britain's University of Brighton is one of a new breed of sustainable designers who are concerned about the waste associated with our consumer culture. "I like the term adulerous consumption" he adds. "Relating to our material possessions is parallel to the idea of adultery, of making a commitment to one thing and then quickly becoming distracted by a younger model. It's so rare now that there's anything in life we are tied to forever. Everything is temporary if we want it to be".
 
SOURCE: GLOBE AND MAIL
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Re: hpowders [dewey] by tagman
Jan 17, 2007 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: dewey (Jan 17, 2007 11:48 am)

I dont care what my BMW computer says I would never ever change my oil every 15k miles. I religiously change mine ever 5 K miles despite what my computer says.
  
TLC is the secret of my long-term success of owning German cars beyond warranty periods.

 
Yes, I agree.
 
When the maintenance costs are included with the deal, it's no surprise that the manufacturer would have low maintenance requirements. They save money that way.
 
But, I was so surprised to see that there was no time limitations to go without service. It's not just miles that takes it's toll. Time does also.
 
Anyway, keep up the good TLC on your vehicles... it makes good sense.
 
TagMan
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Re: hpowders [brightness04] by hpowders
Jan 17, 2007 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: brightness04 (Jan 17, 2007 7:13 am)

Yes. It's worth a try.
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Re: hpowders [houdini1] by hpowders
Jan 17, 2007 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 17, 2007 7:26 am)

Apparently, you should never doubt me!
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The Difference... by hpowders
Jan 17, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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between owning and leasing:
 
Owning: Changing the "oil" every 5000 miles.
 
Leasing: Changing the "oil" every 14000-15000 miles.
 
As a leasee, I have no vested interest in doing anything beyond the minimum maintenance required.
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Re: hpowders [hpowders] by houdini1
Jan 17, 2007 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 17, 2007 1:30 pm)

Yes, what was I thinking??
 
I should have remembered that old age, cunning, and deceit wins out over callow youth and enthusiasm every time!!
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Re: hpowders [houdini1] by hpowders
Jan 17, 2007 (2:42 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 17, 2007 1:47 pm)

My mistake. Guess you win!
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Re: The Difference... [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 17, 2007 (2:52 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 17, 2007 1:35 pm)

Owning: Changing the "oil" every 5000 miles.
Leasing: Changing the "oil" every 14000-15000 miles.
As a leasee, I have no vested interest in doing anything beyond the minimum maintenance required.

 
Makes good sense to me. It's all about driving the car for the smallest amount of cash flow.
 
But, if BMW takes you up on your purchase offer, I expect you might service your 545 every 5,000 miles from then on... that is unless you are being "cunning and deceitful".
 
TagMan
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Re: The Difference... [tagman] by hpowders
Jan 17, 2007 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 17, 2007 2:52 pm)

One doesn't have to change synthetic oil every 5000 miles in the latest model BMWs. To do so is unnecessary. It may help the owner feel good, but the vehicles can go 15,000 miles between changes.
Interesting that my computer has me down for 14,000 miles instead of 15,000 for the oil change. I think my burn the rubber driving may have something to do with that.

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