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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Re: 2007 Detroit Autoshow cont.... [merc1] by houdini1
Jan 15, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 15, 2007 1:33 pm)

Thanks Merc, nice write up. If any other thoughts come to mind please share.
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Re: hpowders [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 15, 2007 12:48 pm)

make sure you go 1080p (progressive). you'll get better results with the newest HD DVD's and BluRay disks.
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Re: Mercedes, McLaren SLS [lexusguy] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 1:04 pm)

Yeah there's a spot or two of plastic in the XJ interior, but certainly not that much, especially compared to the Lexus LS interior which looks like an explosion at a plastics factory.
 
For the most part the interior of the XJ is proper amounts of wood and lots of genuine leather.
 
The IS-F definately is as you described. It isn't going to matter that it isn't in the same league as the BMW M3... all the comps will be between it and the Bimmer... just wait and see. Just by being compared to the M3 will give it credibility that it won't deserve. Diehard BMW fans will see through this, but there will be those that won't.
 
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Re: 2007 Detroit Autoshow Report! [merc1] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 15, 2007 1:01 pm)

this new X5 is seriously gorgeous, but don't kid yourself about it being able to seat seven, because it can't. That "third" seat isn't even fit for most kids let alone adults.
 
I am very sorry to hear that. I was thinking of taking the wife to the BMW dealership to look at that new X5. She needs seats for seven.
 
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Re: Mercedes, McLaren SLS [merc1] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: merc1 (Jan 15, 2007 1:57 pm)

Good review, Merc. I recently posted that the Toyota concept sportscar will be a big hit. I agree about the R8... I posted a similar positive response to it after seeing it at the SF Int'l Auto show. I am glad to learn that the X5 is terrific, but am sorry to learn about the useless third row seats. And, the Mercedes diesels will be even bigger news next year for sure.
 
I am glad you agree with me regarding the merits of the SL.
 
Again, thanks for the review. Just think... one day in the future we might actually love a Lexus! LOL.
 
TagMan
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Re: hpowders [tagman] by hpowders
Jan 15, 2007 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 15, 2007 2:54 pm)

Thanks.
 
I'm waiting to see which of the 2 new DVD technologies becomes the accepted one.
 
If I wind up with an X5, it would be purely for hedonistic reasons.
I need the extra leg-room...and enjoying BMW's best interior wouldn't hurt. The 545's interior is sooo boring. Might be worth giving up some driving excitement. But then again I read the 4.8 X5 can do 0-60 mph in 6.4 seconds. Gulp!
  
 
 I also intend to check out the 335i coupe and any BMW diesels that come along within the next 18 months.
 
Some tough decisions, but somebody's got to do it!
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Ooooh la la by dhamilton
Jan 15, 2007 (5:37 pm)
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Thanks for the Detroit review Merc.
 
Just MHO, but I think the new XK just kills the SL.
 
I have had some significant seat time in the new X5 and can tell you all that it is the best high end SUV out there right now. It's Lexus quiet and smooth, and still has that great BMW steering. For long road trips I think the Q7 is better though.
 
I think that we're all forgetting that the new ISF has to compete with the brilliant RS4 as well. Top Gear recently tested the RS4 against the M3 with the competition package, and the RS4 just killed it.
 
I fear that the new M will displace the Audi, but I don't expect the Lexus to do much but show up. [based on Lexus history.]
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Re: hpowders [hpowders] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: hpowders (Jan 15, 2007 3:28 pm)

Either disk format, you'll still want 1080p capability in the tv. BTW, there is now a universal HD disk player announced at CES that will play BOTH HD formats AND current formats as well... an all-in-one player! Yeah, a solution at last!
 
X5 does sound good. Wonder if there will be a diesel option in the future.
 
TagMan
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Audi by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (6:04 pm)
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Based upon the current trends, there should be a poster called audi1 very soon. Or is there already such a poster?Maybe merc1 will change his name.
 
TagMan
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Re: Mercedes, McLaren SLS [tagman] by merc1
Jan 15, 2007 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 15, 2007 3:18 pm)

Yeah the X5 having "seven seats" is just for marketing only. The commercial they have going where it is lapping the 'Ring is pretty misleading when all those adults get out of it. The ones in the rear seats wouldn't be able to walk!
 
Again, thanks for the review. Just think... one day in the future we might actually love a Lexus!
 
Anything is possible. I really feel like the LF-A could be the first.
 
M

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