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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 14, 2007 8:35 pm) Haven't heard from you in a while, Doc. Hope you're doing well. TagMan
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:20 pm) The XK is fresher and will age slower, and I personally love the way the 6 Series looks. Not necessarily the trunk lid, but it's a very avant garde, unique shape- not as curvaceous as the XK, but gorgeous all its own. '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 15, 2007 6:03 am) |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 6:25 pm) Ugh, no thanks. I'd MUCH rather have a Carrera GT than an SLR, a car which can melt itself and is a blend of exotic sports car and everyday GT, but not the best at either. Plus, Paris Hilton drives one. Thats a deal breaker right there.
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 9:13 pm) For Porsche it was definitely worse with the 1st gen Boxster and the 996 911. The 997 looks like a proper 911 again, and the Boxster is better differentiated from it. The SL is a bit wider than the CLK, and the front end is pulled back a bit farther, the CLK's is more upright. Other than that, they are almost identical. If they are on the other side of a lot and all I can see is the front, I cant tell which is which. Especially in silver. |
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Replying to: esf (Jan 14, 2007 11:03 pm) Wow. I never thought I would see the words 6 series and gorgeous in the same sentence. Perhaps something like "pug ugly, but not pug fugly", or words to that effect, but not gorgeous. Wow. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:09 am) LOL. The illustration I posted is supposedly an SLS, not an SLR. I've never heard of an SLS before, so either it would be something new or the article was a typo. Regardless, it's just an illustration of an idea. The real reason I posted it was to agree with you that the SL is indeed aging a bit, although gracefully IMO, and the future of the SL is still anybody's guess. Last year, I posted a different picture of what might be the next SL. Bottom line... a new one should be around the corner, IMO, and I'd expect it to be an improvement. In real life, I'm with you on this one... I'd take the Carrera GT. BTW, When I was making the hard choice recently, I ruled out the both the XK and the SL only because I wanted the manual transmission of the Carrera S. Had I been choosing between automatics, I'd never have touched the Porsche's Tiptronic. I'd have been in the same boat as blkhemi and would have been choosing between the SL and an XKR. While I have been saying that I'd have gone with the SL, I can't be 100% certain, because the XK I drove was not an XKR. Quite possibly, the added power of the XKR could have swayed me in that direction. I must admit that your posts and others have made me realize a little more that as beautiful as the SL is, it is indeed a bit long in the tooth at this point. I hope its replacement does come soon. I hope you don't think I was being overly critical of the Jag's front end. I was being honest about it, and I don't want you to think that I dislike the XK overall. I still love it quite a bit, and would buy one under the right circumstance. Anyone should be proud and excited to own one... including you, of course. Interesting that you hate the 6 that much. I'm not a fan of that model either, but I don't hate it. As you know, it's the Lexus cars that get under my skin. I don't know why exactly, since they are so well made. I think it's just that the styling is dead, IMO. Lexus styling does very little to arouse the senses, IMO. I think this will change with the next generation of Lexus vehicles, however. The concepts do indeed look interesting. Future Lexus for TagMan?... never say never. LOL. Enough rambling for now... Talk to you later, TagMan |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 15, 2007 9:41 am) I hated the design of the 645i when it launched, and I still hate it. Of all the Bangle BMWs, I think it is by far the worst, with the 745i being in second place. They've cleaned up the 7, and now it doesn't look too bad. It doesn't have the clean lines of the A8, or the sexy curves of the Maserati QP, but its no longer an eyesore. The interior is still the worst of any HELC though, barely beating out the Jaguar XJ. Lexus has had a few styling hits, and a lot of misses. The original SC coupe was good, and the GS400 was good (except for those stupid circular brake lights in the back), it just sat on the market WAY too long. I didn't really like the new GS when it hit, but it has grown on me. I liked the first gen RX much better than the original ML's minivan look, and the RX has influenced a huge amount of (mostly Korean) crossovers. The IS350 is a great looking car. The SC430 is really, really awful. The sooner they get rid of that thing, the better.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 10:45 am) Regarding the XJ... I do remember that you're not fond of the XJ interior. I'm good with it, and although it is no doubt dated, I still am very fond of the XJ overall... both interior and exterior. It's a classic that works for me... especially the Vanden Plas. Not to say that I don't look forward to a replacement, because I do, and I hope it is a good one. Jaguar could really use a terrific brand new flagship sedan at this point in time. BTW, the Bangle-look taken to the extreme doesn't work for me either. In moderation, it's OK. Yes, the RX has definately inspired the Koreans. And I've never been a big fan of the looks of the ML... reminds me of a high-top sneaker. TagMan
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