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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.



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Mercedes, McLaren SLS by tagman
Jan 14, 2007 (6:25 pm)
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Hey LG,
 
Now THIS is more like it!
 

 
Hope they build it.
 
TagMan
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Tag by drfill
Jan 14, 2007 (8:35 pm)
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Agree with the fishy look of the Jags front, but it's rear is J-Lo good!
 
   The SL is still the standard, it's just familiar at this point. Breeds contempt. Nothing wrong with this great design.
 
   The above picture is some hack drawing, and I hope doesn't see the light of day! Split the difference between the current SL, and this cartooinsh drawing please.
 
   LG makes a good point. No two cars should have front ends that much alike. If I owned an SL, and parked next to a CLK, I'd be pretty po'd!
 
   DrFill
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Re: Tag [drfill] by tagman
Jan 14, 2007 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: drfill (Jan 14, 2007 8:35 pm)

Yeah, I agree with you about the similarity issue, and I told LG his point was well-taken, but it isn't that uncommon nowadays to see similar looks in different models. I mentioned the Porsche 911 and Boxster as another example. But, for goodness sakes, when an SL is parked next to a CLK, it doesn't take much to see which is the SL. It wouldn't bother me a bit. Too bad about the Jag's snout, but I certainly think that the rest of the car is magnifique.
 
Haven't heard from you in a while, Doc. Hope you're doing well.
 
TagMan
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Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [lexusguy] by esf
Jan 14, 2007 (11:03 pm)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:20 pm)

I actually agree. The SL500 was unbelievably beautiful when it was introduced- but with the 550 facelift, the car has aged quickly, and just doesn't look nearly as good as it did now that the S and CL look so much newer.
 
The XK is fresher and will age slower, and I personally love the way the 6 Series looks. Not necessarily the trunk lid, but it's a very avant garde, unique shape- not as curvaceous as the XK, but gorgeous all its own.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330
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hpowders by syswei
Jan 15, 2007 (6:03 am)
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OT...I was looking at a 32XRR2 for my kitchen, and saw the moniker "hpowders" over on AVS Forum. Is that you?
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Re: hpowders [syswei] by syswei
Jan 15, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: syswei (Jan 15, 2007 6:03 am)

typo...XBR
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Re: Mercedes, McLaren SLS [tagman] by lexusguy
Jan 15, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 6:25 pm)

Now THIS is more like it!
 
Ugh, no thanks. I'd MUCH rather have a Carrera GT than an SLR, a car which can melt itself and is a blend of exotic sports car and everyday GT, but not the best at either. Plus, Paris Hilton drives one. Thats a deal breaker right there.
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Re: Tag [tagman] by lexusguy
Jan 15, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 9:13 pm)

mentioned the Porsche 911 and Boxster as another example. But, for goodness sakes, when an SL is parked next to a CLK, it doesn't take much to see which is the SL.
 
For Porsche it was definitely worse with the 1st gen Boxster and the 996 911. The 997 looks like a proper 911 again, and the Boxster is better differentiated from it.
 
The SL is a bit wider than the CLK, and the front end is pulled back a bit farther, the CLK's is more upright. Other than that, they are almost identical. If they are on the other side of a lot and all I can see is the front, I cant tell which is which. Especially in silver.
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Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [esf] by lexusguy
Jan 15, 2007 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: esf (Jan 14, 2007 11:03 pm)

I personally love the way the 6 Series looks. Not necessarily the trunk lid, but it's a very avant garde, unique shape- not as curvaceous as the XK, but gorgeous all its own.
 
Wow. I never thought I would see the words 6 series and gorgeous in the same sentence. Perhaps something like "pug ugly, but not pug fugly", or words to that effect, but not gorgeous. Wow.
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Re: Mercedes, McLaren SLS [lexusguy] by tagman
Jan 15, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:09 am)

Plus, Paris Hilton drives one. Thats a deal breaker right there.
 
LOL. The illustration I posted is supposedly an SLS, not an SLR. I've never heard of an SLS before, so either it would be something new or the article was a typo.
 
Regardless, it's just an illustration of an idea. The real reason I posted it was to agree with you that the SL is indeed aging a bit, although gracefully IMO, and the future of the SL is still anybody's guess. Last year, I posted a different picture of what might be the next SL. Bottom line... a new one should be around the corner, IMO, and I'd expect it to be an improvement.
 
In real life, I'm with you on this one... I'd take the Carrera GT.
 
BTW, When I was making the hard choice recently, I ruled out the both the XK and the SL only because I wanted the manual transmission of the Carrera S. Had I been choosing between automatics, I'd never have touched the Porsche's Tiptronic. I'd have been in the same boat as blkhemi and would have been choosing between the SL and an XKR.
 
While I have been saying that I'd have gone with the SL, I can't be 100% certain, because the XK I drove was not an XKR. Quite possibly, the added power of the XKR could have swayed me in that direction.
 
I must admit that your posts and others have made me realize a little more that as beautiful as the SL is, it is indeed a bit long in the tooth at this point. I hope its replacement does come soon.
 
I hope you don't think I was being overly critical of the Jag's front end. I was being honest about it, and I don't want you to think that I dislike the XK overall. I still love it quite a bit, and would buy one under the right circumstance. Anyone should be proud and excited to own one... including you, of course.
 
Interesting that you hate the 6 that much. I'm not a fan of that model either, but I don't hate it.
 
As you know, it's the Lexus cars that get under my skin. I don't know why exactly, since they are so well made. I think it's just that the styling is dead, IMO. Lexus styling does very little to arouse the senses, IMO. I think this will change with the next generation of Lexus vehicles, however. The concepts do indeed look interesting. Future Lexus for TagMan?... never say never. LOL.
 
Enough rambling for now... Talk to you later,
 
TagMan

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