High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#22909 of 24700 Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [tagman] by lexusguy Jan 14, 2007 (12:20 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 8:45 am) But to read your negative view of the SL is alarming. I could never agree with you. The SL550 is MUCH more car than you give it credit for. I'm surprised at you. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the SL550. I hate the 650i. I'm certainly not trying to imply that its a bad car. All I'm saying is the looks don't do it for me. The new S and CL (with AMG treatment) look quite good, while (to me) the SL looks like a last generation product. The styling just doesn't move me like the Jag or even the Maserati coupe's does. I felt pretty much the same about the last SL. The only German sports car in recent memory that I would describe as "sexy" is the BMW Z8. Also, I think the XKR delivers a lot more for the money. Its not quite SL55\63, but IMO more than the 550. Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:29 pm) lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:39 pm) tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:56 pm) esf (Jan 14, 2007 11:03 pm) lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:21 am)
#22910 of 24700 Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [lexusguy] by tagman Jan 14, 2007 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:20 pm) OK, I'm good with that. And, let's make it clear that I do love the XKR, but the snout is a small negative if I'm to be honest about it. Not enough to kill a deal, mind you. Now, how 'bout a congrats to me for knowing those pics! Take care, and enjoy that beautiful XK of yours. TagMan Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:39 pm) tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:56 pm)
#22911 of 24700 Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [tagman] by lexusguy Jan 14, 2007 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:29 pm) but the snout is a small negative if I'm to be honest about it. Not enough to kill a deal, mind you. Yeah, unfortunately they had to do it thanks to the latest EU regs. I'm actually of two minds about which version of the XK I like better. The XK8 has very nice integrated fog lamps, where as to me the XKR's look tacked on. On the other hand, I think the bright wire grilles on the XKR help to disguise how chunky the nose is better than the XK8s dark grille. Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:56 pm)
#22912 of 24700 Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [lexusguy] by tagman Jan 14, 2007 (12:56 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:39 pm) I agree. Those EU regs I believe have something to do with creating a buffer between the engine and the front of the car to minimize injuries caused by hitting pedestrians... for goodness sakes... talk about government intervention. Must be a bunch of pedestrians getting hit by cars over there, I guess. Now about those pics? TagMan
#22913 of 24700 blkhemi by anthonyp Jan 14, 2007 (1:16 pm)
Just wondering if you gave serious thought to the CL ? To me that looks interesting....Tony Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 1:22 pm)
#22914 of 24700 Re: blkhemi [anthonyp] by tagman Jan 14, 2007 (1:22 pm)
Replying to: anthonyp (Jan 14, 2007 1:16 pm) That's sure a beautiful car, Tony. I'll betcha blkhemi will go for the Jag, though. He's coming out of a Mercedes S-Class... and he's after a convertible this time around... quite frankly, the Jag XKR convertible will change his gears more than another Mercedes will. My crystal ball sees him burning rubber in the XKR, but we'll all know soon enough. TagMan
#22915 of 24700 Mercedes, McLaren SLS by tagman Jan 14, 2007 (6:25 pm)
Hey LG, Now THIS is more like it! Hope they build it. TagMan Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:09 am) tagman (Jan 15, 2007 9:41 am) lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 10:45 am) and 10 more... merc1 (Jan 15, 2007 1:57 pm) and 2 more...
#22916 of 24700 Tag by drfill Jan 14, 2007 (8:35 pm)
Agree with the fishy look of the Jags front, but it's rear is J-Lo good! The SL is still the standard, it's just familiar at this point. Breeds contempt. Nothing wrong with this great design. The above picture is some hack drawing, and I hope doesn't see the light of day! Split the difference between the current SL, and this cartooinsh drawing please. LG makes a good point. No two cars should have front ends that much alike. If I owned an SL, and parked next to a CLK, I'd be pretty po'd! DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 9:13 pm) lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:14 am)
#22917 of 24700 Re: Tag [drfill] by tagman Jan 14, 2007 (9:13 pm)
Replying to: drfill (Jan 14, 2007 8:35 pm) Yeah, I agree with you about the similarity issue, and I told LG his point was well-taken, but it isn't that uncommon nowadays to see similar looks in different models. I mentioned the Porsche 911 and Boxster as another example. But, for goodness sakes, when an SL is parked next to a CLK, it doesn't take much to see which is the SL. It wouldn't bother me a bit. Too bad about the Jag's snout, but I certainly think that the rest of the car is magnifique. Haven't heard from you in a while, Doc. Hope you're doing well. TagMan Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:14 am)
#22918 of 24700 Re: LG, DH, Tag and Merc [lexusguy] by esf Jan 14, 2007 (11:03 pm)
Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:20 pm) I actually agree. The SL500 was unbelievably beautiful when it was introduced- but with the 550 facelift, the car has aged quickly, and just doesn't look nearly as good as it did now that the S and CL look so much newer. The XK is fresher and will age slower, and I personally love the way the 6 Series looks. Not necessarily the trunk lid, but it's a very avant garde, unique shape- not as curvaceous as the XK, but gorgeous all its own. '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330 Replies to this message: lexusguy (Jan 15, 2007 9:21 am)