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24685 messages, Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 4:40 PM
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Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: houdini1 (Jan 14, 2007 7:23 am) The Japanese(particularly Toyota) have become to big, to fast. Quality has slipped and now the bread and butter Accords and Camry's are now being hunted. With new Camry's quality woes and the Accord's aging design and useless brakes(this may change for '08), GM has a chance to slip a few good punches in. Now selling $65k-$100k Cadillacs may prove to be a tough task, altho the average transaction for an Escalade is $62k, and it is the best selling big-guy SUV. As I said before, I wish them all well, but won't count out the nifty Japanese(and Koreans) with their brilliance if GM can't get their act together, quickly. But judging from the new Malibu and super-cool CTS, they may just have the power to make a strong comeback. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 7:37 am) Both vehicles have presence, style, and luxury. But that's just it, they have all of this yet they do it all a bit different than the other. Will take a final drive of each on Tuesday(will enjoy my rare Monday off- thanks MLK) and decide from there. Thanks pals for all of your valueble input.
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Replying to: blkhemi (Jan 14, 2007 7:47 am)
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 7:37 am) Wow, I NEVER said the Jag wasn't good-looking. But to read your negative view of the SL is alarming. I could never agree with you. The SL550 is MUCH more car than you give it credit for. I'm surprised at you. Regardless, that Jag is good-looking as I've always said, but that front snout is a catfish for sure. As far as your pics go, your point is well-taken, but the similarity between two good-looking models is not uncommon. Heck, the Porsche's looks have all been very similar in the front for years. The 911 and the Boxster at half the price certainly shared a similar front end. If you are going to talk about the front end look, I'd say that the AM does a much better job than the Jag in that department, because at least the AM doesn't look like an oversized bumper that looks like a catfish. Now, don't over-react, because I still love the Jag in spite of that snout. BTW, the top pic is a CLK... Keep the prize. TagMan
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 7:53 am) TagMan |
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 8:45 am) Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the SL550. I hate the 650i. I'm certainly not trying to imply that its a bad car. All I'm saying is the looks don't do it for me. The new S and CL (with AMG treatment) look quite good, while (to me) the SL looks like a last generation product. The styling just doesn't move me like the Jag or even the Maserati coupe's does. I felt pretty much the same about the last SL. The only German sports car in recent memory that I would describe as "sexy" is the BMW Z8. Also, I think the XKR delivers a lot more for the money. Its not quite SL55\63, but IMO more than the 550. |
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:20 pm) Now, how 'bout a congrats to me for knowing those pics! Take care, and enjoy that beautiful XK of yours. TagMan
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Replying to: tagman (Jan 14, 2007 12:29 pm) Yeah, unfortunately they had to do it thanks to the latest EU regs. I'm actually of two minds about which version of the XK I like better. The XK8 has very nice integrated fog lamps, where as to me the XKR's look tacked on. On the other hand, I think the bright wire grilles on the XKR help to disguise how chunky the nose is better than the XK8s dark grille.
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Replying to: lexusguy (Jan 14, 2007 12:39 pm) Those EU regs I believe have something to do with creating a buffer between the engine and the front of the car to minimize injuries caused by hitting pedestrians... for goodness sakes... talk about government intervention. Must be a bunch of pedestrians getting hit by cars over there, I guess. Now about those pics? TagMan |
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Just wondering if you gave serious thought to the CL ? To me that looks interesting....Tony
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