High End Luxury Cars

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan



Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.


#22478 of 24723 Re: hpowers [dhamilton] by hpowders

Dec 23, 2006 (8:50 am)

Replying to: dhamilton (Dec 23, 2006 6:52 am)
To drive or not to drive? That is the friggen question....Well I defer to Shakespeare. But I do believe I have a viable system for driving the best vehicles, walking away and repeating the procedure.
All with no money down and all maintenance included.
 
Looking forward to the end of my 545i lease so I can move on to something better like the BMW 335i twin turbo coupe or perhaps a 335d coupe if it becomes available here by August 2008.
 
One thing's for sure, I am absolutely through with the 3 year lease concept. Never more than 2 years from now on. I want to drive as many great vehicles as I can!
Glad you agree.

#22479 of 24723 The new Jag by dewey

Dec 23, 2006 (10:07 am)

Will this Jaguar CX-F replace the Jag S?
A new competitor for the MB CLS?
 
First of all why even bother calling it a Jaguar. It seems just too radical and the interior has the warmth of Dr. Spock (not to be mixed up with that child care fellow).
 
The details are written in an Edmunds blog:
 
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#22480 of 24723 Mercedes-Benz CLR 600 Concept by dewey

Dec 23, 2006 (2:26 pm)

The future may not involve platform sharing between MB and Chrysler. BUT based on this concept (and hopefully it stays a concept) there appears to be some design sharing between MB and Chrysler .
 
Doesn't this new MB CLR 600 look a bit like a Dodge Challenger? It definitely has more of an Amercican Muscle Car Look than a Stuttgart Look.
 
I like the look of the upcoming Dodge Challenger. But I hate the look of this Benz because it just does not look like a Benz IMO. And what is with that idiotic rear spoiler? Is Benz trying to imitate the Subaru WRX STi look?
 
SOURCE: carbodydesign.com
 

#22481 of 24723 Re: BMW lease offers [brightness04] by blckislandguy

Dec 23, 2006 (8:20 pm)

Replying to: brightness04 (Dec 23, 2006 12:06 am)
Briteness04, thanks for the thoughtful and lengthy response. Regrettably, I didn't fully understand it. I followed and agreed with the first 6 1/2 lines but you lost me beginning with the sentence "The break even point is not reached for 140K miles assuming the same 8% discount off MSRP for a purchase (92 times 1.5)"
 
In any case, wouldn't the subsidized lease just result in a lower resale price when the moment of truth comes and it comes off lease? Used Saabs are a great buy because of this. Doesn't this just affirm my belief that the moment to buy these things is when they come off the subsidized lease? (Although, amazingly, a used '03 745i despite horrible electrical problems, the much maligned I Drive, and a bad press is still over 42K.)
 
I'd appreciate it if you would clear this up. I think you are on to something.

#22482 of 24723 Re: The new Jag [dewey] by lexusguy

Dec 23, 2006 (9:18 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Dec 23, 2006 10:07 am)
First of all why even bother calling it a Jaguar. It seems just too radical and the interior has the warmth of Dr. Spock (not to be mixed up with that child care fellow).
 
Never take a concept interior at face value. Look at the Lexus LF-C interior of a few years ago. That was another space ship on the inside, and the actual production Lexus IS is a perfectly normal car on the inside. No floating electro-panels, no joysticks, and none of the other gimmicks that typically show up in concepts.
 
I don't think Jaguar can be "too radical". They've done "too conservative" already, and its killing them. Jag needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century, otherwise the replacement for the S-type might as well be a Rover 75.

#22483 of 24723 Re: Mercedes-Benz CLR 600 Concept [dewey] by lexusguy

Dec 23, 2006 (9:21 pm)

Replying to: dewey (Dec 23, 2006 2:26 pm)
But I hate the look of this Benz because it just does not look like a Benz IMO. And what is with that idiotic rear spoiler? Is Benz trying to imitate the Subaru WRX STi look?
 
Wow. I really hope for M-B's sake that this stays on paper, and preferably in a garbage can somewhere. If they actually make this thing, it will destroy the brand faster than you can say Mustang sedan.

#22484 of 24723 Re: Mercedes-Benz CLR 600 Concept [lexusguy] by designman

Dec 23, 2006 (10:09 pm)

Replying to: lexusguy (Dec 23, 2006 9:21 pm)
Lexusguy or anyone else... my wife is interested in getting a portable GPS with Bluetooth. Got any suggestions?

#22485 of 24723 Re: hpowers [hpowders] by esf

Dec 23, 2006 (10:52 pm)

Replying to: hpowders (Dec 23, 2006 8:50 am)
Oh, my dream would be the 335dxi coupe... I know they'd never come out with an AWD diesel (that would be REALLY imitating Audi), but it's the ideal BMW, IMO.
 
If not, I want a 335xi two-door. Is that coming out? I hope so. The new E92 is not only a beauty, but it has a fantastic new powertrain, a surprising amount of standard features and a more exclusive feel.
 
Because I'm not settling for neither a 335xi sedan nor a 328xi coupe. They just won't suffice.
 
If it doesn't come out, I'll just have to get a 2007 S4 Avant to complement my Cabriolet (a year old- I'd be getting it in 2008 and don't want to spend $60,000 on a winter car). How cool would that be? Especially if it was in Sprint Blue, like what I have now!
 
But there's something to mull over here. The wife might have an A8 by then, and the entire reason for getting a new winter car would be that my son takes the A3. That would leave us with four Audis. That seems a little creepy. Perhaps I'll have to get a 911, 6 Series, SL or XKR for my S4 Cabriolet replacement.
 
'06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet • '04 Lexus RX330

#22486 of 24723 Re: Mercedes-Benz CLR 600 Concept [designman] by lexusguy

Dec 24, 2006 (12:24 pm)

Replying to: designman (Dec 23, 2006 10:09 pm)
Lexusguy or anyone else... my wife is interested in getting a portable GPS with Bluetooth. Got any suggestions?
 
Yes. I highly recommend the Garmin Nuvi 360. I've got one that I use in Europe. It's small enough to easily fit in a pocket, and very accurate, has bluetooth, and can announce street names and addresses.
 
Nuvi 360

#22487 of 24723 Re: hpowers [esf] by lexusguy

Dec 24, 2006 (12:27 pm)

Replying to: esf (Dec 23, 2006 10:52 pm)
If not, I want a 335xi two-door. Is that coming out? I hope so. The new E92 is not only a beauty, but it has a fantastic new powertrain, a surprising amount of standard features and a more exclusive feel.
 
Currently they are only making a 328xi coupe. That might change when Audi has their S5.
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