High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#22384 of 24700 Re: Dewey [merc1] by designman Dec 19, 2006 (6:42 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 19, 2006 6:17 pm) Merc, please help me understand the problem you have with the convertible. I love the idea... brings back the glorious era of pink Cadillacs. Dewd, that's some serious sass and swagger! Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 19, 2006 11:15 pm)
#22385 of 24700 Re: BMW lease offers [hpowders] by brightness04 Dec 19, 2006 (7:48 pm)
Replying to: hpowders (Dec 19, 2006 6:19 pm) Very true. MFR advertisement usually use MSRP as capitalized amount. They have to do that because they have to leave something on the table for the dealers; or from a purely logical point of view, the manufacturer would be suggesting a different retail price if they suggested something other than the MSRP; only MB seems to have missed the logic there, with their use of "suggested dealer contribution" concept. Usually the "down payment" portion of a mfr advertised lease deal reflect the discount off MSRP one can reasonably expect. Replies to this message: hpowders (Dec 20, 2006 4:50 am) brightness04 (Dec 20, 2006 10:31 am) hpowders (Dec 20, 2006 12:04 pm) and 25 more...
#22386 of 24700 Re: Dewey [merc1] by dewey Dec 19, 2006 (7:49 pm)
Replying to: merc1 (Dec 19, 2006 6:17 pm) The MB S Class cabrio is a reality! Nostradamus and myself have a special knack for predicting things correctly. While Nostradamus can predict natural catastrophies centuries ahead in the future I can predict with 20/20 vision MB S Class convertibles and MB/E Sales figures six months in the future. My crystal ball has never failed me yet. Replies to this message: merc1 (Dec 19, 2006 11:16 pm)
#22387 of 24700 Re: So what does the Millionaire Next Door Drive? [dewey] by brightness04 Dec 19, 2006 (8:03 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 18, 2006 5:35 pm) I had a BMW (well, actually two, consecutively) when I was making 1/10 as much as I do now. Cars cease to be a status symbol when the most expensive car costs less than 5% of a person's income. It's like, do we really care about what Chinaware or silverware we use nowadays? when the most expensive (non-collectible) ones only cost a few thousand bucks. Replies to this message: dewey (Dec 19, 2006 8:18 pm) brightness04 (Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am) dewey (Dec 20, 2006 8:50 am) and 2 more... syswei (Dec 20, 2006 5:39 am) dewey (Dec 20, 2006 8:58 am) and 4 more...
#22388 of 24700 Saving the Enzos and their Drivers from Death by dewey Dec 19, 2006 (8:07 pm)
The article linked below (sorry it's in French) describes the increased prevalence of Ferarri accidents worldwide (some of them fatal). What will the future be like when mainstream performance/sport cars drive like ENZOs. A scary thought indeed. I did not post some of the ENZO accident pictures linked below because they are quite disturbing. http://www.leblogauto.com/2006/12/encore-une-ferrari-crashee.html Replies to this message: brightness04 (Dec 20, 2006 2:43 am) hpowders (Dec 20, 2006 4:55 am) 2001gs430 (Dec 20, 2006 5:57 am)
#22389 of 24700 Re: So what does the Millionaire Next Door Drive? [brightness04] by dewey Dec 19, 2006 (8:18 pm)
Replying to: brightness04 (Dec 19, 2006 8:03 pm) True very true. All luxury marques (including BMW ofcourse) have become more commoditized throughout the years. And that doesnt bother me one bit. I couldn't care less about exclusivity. If Honda can produce RWD cars like the BMWs I own right now then I would buy Hondas instead ( I can live without the more exclusive Acura marque). Replies to this message: brightness04 (Dec 20, 2006 2:45 am) dewey (Dec 20, 2006 8:50 am) kirstie_h (Dec 20, 2006 9:00 am) and 1 more... syswei (Dec 20, 2006 5:39 am) dewey (Dec 20, 2006 8:58 am) hpowders (Dec 20, 2006 12:02 pm) and 3 more...
#22390 of 24700 Re: Dewey [designman] by merc1 Dec 19, 2006 (11:15 pm)
Replying to: designman (Dec 19, 2006 6:42 pm) I would rather see a CL cabrio I guess. Also, I guess I don't want Mercedes to add yet another model to their lineup, one that no doubt took a lot of engineering resources (a 4-door convertible) to get "right". The S-Class has seemingly been launched without so much as a peep of trouble and I'd like it to stay that way. I'm reading that Mercedes just registered "CLC-Class" also. What the hell is going on here? No one told me anything! I guess we'll all know whats what in a few hours. I mean how will a S-Class convertible look? Will it uphold Mercedes legendary convertible solidity standards? So many things have to be right for such a model to work, IMO. Then again I could be worried for no reason, it could be the most stunning Mercedes in years. M
#22391 of 24700 Re: Dewey [dewey] by merc1 Dec 19, 2006 (11:16 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 19, 2006 7:49 pm) We'll see, the fat lady might be warming up but she hasn't belted out anything just yet. A few more hours.... M
#22392 of 24700 Re: Saving the Enzos and their Drivers from Death [dewey] by brightness04 Dec 20, 2006 (2:43 am)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 19, 2006 8:07 pm) What's up with French roads and inflexible poles I mean, seriously, haven't they heard of compression barriers and deflection barriers? Do they bank the turns the opposite way too? just to get rid of the fast drivers? Now that's an evil thought.
#22393 of 24700 Re: So what does the Millionaire Next Door Drive? [dewey] by brightness04 Dec 20, 2006 (2:45 am)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 19, 2006 8:18 pm) Isn't S2000 RWD? and probably better handling than any HELC. Replies to this message: dewey (Dec 20, 2006 8:50 am) kirstie_h (Dec 20, 2006 9:00 am) dewey (Dec 20, 2006 10:27 am)