High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#22284 of 24700 Re: Mercedes-Benz [blkhemi] by tagman Dec 14, 2006 (5:17 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Dec 14, 2006 5:10 pm) when they actually do take the 911 front-engine No way, Jose. TagMan Replies to this message: blkhemi (Dec 14, 2006 5:54 pm) tagman (Dec 14, 2006 8:51 pm) blkhemi (Dec 17, 2006 7:59 am)
#22285 of 24700 Audi marketing by tagman Dec 14, 2006 (5:19 pm)
Here's a blurb to show that Audi is paying some attention to its marketing. link title TagMan
#22286 of 24700 Re: Mercedes-Benz [tagman] by blkhemi Dec 14, 2006 (5:54 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Dec 14, 2006 5:17 pm) Whoa Nelly!! Just because you got one of the last 911's as we know it doesn't mean they won't go front-engine. Seriously, there has been talk of Porsche wanting to go hi-po V6 and V8 in the 911's in the future, and much of that talk has involved the upper brass in how to make the 911 front-engine and still enjoyable by the it's cult following. We all thought it was all over for Porsche to go liquid-cooled. Well if they hadn't, we wouldn't have been driving Porsche's at all as they couldn't pass emissions. And also, the company has really started to listen to the consumers of the 911's over the very premature tire wear it has, no doubt do mostly to the 60% rear end weight bias. Most 911 tires only last about 15k miles. Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 14, 2006 8:51 pm) blkhemi (Dec 17, 2006 7:59 am)
#22287 of 24700 Re: OK - Now here this. [blkhemi] by houdini1 Dec 14, 2006 (6:40 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Dec 14, 2006 5:04 pm) And exactly what point are you trying to make here? That Toyota/Lexus is smarter, more cost efficient, and plans better than other car companies? We are supposed to be discussing the LS, not Toyota/Lexus lower end models. What Toyota shares the LS platform? Replies to this message: blkhemi (Dec 17, 2006 7:52 am) houdini1 (Dec 17, 2006 7:56 am)
#22288 of 24700 Re: Mercedes-Benz [blkhemi] by tagman Dec 14, 2006 (8:51 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Dec 14, 2006 5:54 pm) If Porsche is serious about weight distribution, then the REAL option is not front-engine, as you predict, but rather mid-engine, IMO. The next 911 might drop the rear seats, move the engine mid-ship, like the Cayman, but all the bells and whistles, high horse power, and super good looks would go to the 911, to maintain model distinction. TagMan Replies to this message: blkhemi (Dec 17, 2006 7:59 am)
#22289 of 24700 Re: Mercedes-Benz [dewey] by merc1 Dec 14, 2006 (9:25 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 14, 2006 3:49 pm) Old article Dewey, we'll see what happens. Not offical pic either. M
#22290 of 24700 How dare by dhamilton Dec 15, 2006 (3:06 pm)
How dare esf post something negative about Audi's I think I won't come to this Audi hating forum anymore .
#22291 of 24700 The Battle for Britain by dewey Dec 15, 2006 (3:42 pm)
What a coincidence? Shortly after BMW officially acquires Britain's John Cooper Works, MB will likely soon be acqiring the British outfit McLaren. McLaren
#22292 of 24700 Re: OK - Now here this. [dewey] by brightness04 Dec 15, 2006 (9:55 pm)
Replying to: dewey (Dec 14, 2006 7:19 am) Please enlighten us with what you do know about Lexus? What you are missing is that Toyota is a full-line brand in its home market just like Mercedes, perhaps even more so at the HELC end. MB sells little tin cans like A class as well as S class. Toyota sells little tin cans like Yaris as well as the Century, which is above even the S class and competes with Rolls-Royce, which is the target of Maybach brand in the MB universe. So, there is no need to apologize for sharing platform with Toyota.
#22293 of 24700 Re: Mercedes-Benz [blkhemi] by brightness04 Dec 15, 2006 (10:02 pm)
Replying to: blkhemi (Dec 14, 2006 5:10 pm) What Porsche wants in this marriage is VW's production volume. A la the V8 used in Cayenne; developing a new V8 on Porsche's own lonesome self would simply be uneconomical. Niche player simply can not survive the next down turn in the industry, due to the high cost of R&D nowadays. Economy of scale is the key. In that sense, VW is just as important as Audi in this equation; besdies, the two are so interwined nowadays as far as parts bins and platforms are concerned. Replies to this message: blkhemi (Dec 17, 2006 8:13 am)