Last post on Jan 28, 2013 at 5:55 PM
You are in the Sedans
What is this discussion about?
Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
#22226 of 24726 Re: Hp [reality2]
Dec 13, 2006 (4:03 am)
You're entitled to your opinion, just as the 24-year old is entitled to his. Just FYI, I'm not as anti-Audi anti-German or pro-Lexus as it might sometimes appear. The LS is still probably the lead candidate for my next sedan, but also on the list will be the S, A8, 2008 7 (if AWD)...I am going to decide something once the LS460 is available AWD (or maybe sooner, if it looks like Lexus is going to be too slow in bringing it out).
Dec 13, 2006 (5:02 am)
Whenever I am getting close to assuming a new lease, I always negotiate the best price of the car I can get, which will be somewhere between dealer's cost and MSRP, as if I was buying the car. All other things being equal, it is the key to obtaining the lowest monthly payment.
I always run my own numbers (combination of lowest selling price, highest residual %, lowest money factor available, which is the loan rate) and pit many dealers from my state against each other to get the best deal possible.
This way I obtained a monthly payment of about $200-$300 less per month for the same car as some other folks are paying according to my spot checks of leasetrader.com over the past year.
As far as BMW is concerned, add the 4 year free maintenance, plus the $500-$1000 rebate from BMWCCA I get back for each new leasing deal and the incredible residual percentages and money factors (loan rates) from BMWFS (like 72% and 3.4%, respectively) and I have found a method for driving some of the best cars out there with some frequency for dirt cheap
( borrowing at 2.4% in my case), without the hassle of having to try to dump them, trade them or repair them.
No. I would never buy. Having too much fun leasing which should increase quite a bit once I implement the hpowders 24 month lease program.
Dec 13, 2006 (5:34 am)
Plus, no money down except the usual fees.
#22230 of 24726 Re: OK - Now here this. [tagman]
Dec 13, 2006 (6:36 am)
OK now I finally found the Porsche news item I was looking for. A Porsche Diesel. It's definitely a beaut! For more info link below:
#22231 of 24726 A Perfect 10
Dec 13, 2006 (6:45 am)
The paragraph is from an article linked below:
CNet reviews cars, too. And here, Auto Editor Wayne Cunningham gives the Lexus 460L the publication's only perfect 10 rating. Just one question for you, buddy: Do you hate driving?
Lexus LS gets a Perfect 10
#22232 of 24726 Re: As For Me... [hpowders]
Dec 13, 2006 (6:45 am)
This way I obtained a monthly payment of about $200-$300 less per month for the same car as some other folks are paying according to my spot checks of leasetrader.com over the past year
That a real good deal. Sounds like BMW really wanted your business...
#22233 of 24726 Re: As For Me... [2001gs430]
Dec 13, 2006 (6:52 am)
Heavy discounting....BMW's must be moving kinda slow..
#22234 of 24726 Re: As For Me... [houdini1]
Dec 13, 2006 (6:54 am)
No one wants to buy or lease BMWs unless they are priced equivalently to Corollas. Things are so slow at BMW that it can definitely be considered the biggest failure in automotive history.
#22235 of 24726 LS460 Self-parking instructions anyone?
by Karen@Edmunds HOST
Dec 13, 2006 (7:01 am)
Recently at the LA Show, I took a brief video of the demonstration at the Lexus booth. It's kind of amusing..at least, I thought it was.
"We see a parking space. We want that space. It's a car, it's a space, it's a car...."
Only the parallel parking challenged need apply.
Pardon my ignorance (and I'm not afraid to admit it), but do any of these other vehicles in this category offer such a snazzy (although, silly, imho) option? If not, why not? Will they eventually? What's the next HELC useless gizmo to be implemented? Maybe it's not useless to you? Why?