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Sedans High End Luxury Cars
24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You are in the Sedans Forum. Your Hosts are pat & karens
Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.
A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.
Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.
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Replying to: reality2 (Dec 11, 2006 8:05 pm) Maybe you should consider test driving an LS before making such a sweeping statement? Here is what one fellow had to say about the LS as compared to A8 (source CL): Wow, I never thought I would finally say this from an age of 24, that the LS460L is one piece of fine machinery! It moves effortlessly and it changes lane so cleanly and handles that turn like a luxury sedan should do but with fantastic handling that does not suffer any lean to one side or the other. Compared to my Dad's 2006 Audi A8L, this car feels big but feels fast and stable at every manuever I did ( not harsh ones beleive me but decent heavy turns and heavy braking at times). I love the way the seat cradles me and supports me in every aspects. The techno goodies are like a wonderland to me, with the most favorite one is the parking system ( its so easy!!) I dont get howw all these reviews are saying its tough or hard, thats the lack on their part to be clueless and not to understand how to work it before using it! Overall, this car is a winner!!! I think Lexus is gonna have a ball with this one once the sports package are getting out to the lot and the LS600h L are getting out as well. |
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Replying to: syswei (Dec 12, 2006 3:30 am) Found out later on that I really don't like 4-door cars with a few exceptions of course. If there is coupe or convertible version I'll go for that first so now it would be a CL550 or SL550. Though I don't see how any car in this class fails to change lanes "cleanly" though.  M |
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All the MB wires are buzzing this morning about that darned S-Class convertible.  Not sure what to think now! M
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Replying to: merc1 (Dec 12, 2006 5:36 am) 
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Replying to: hpowders (Dec 11, 2006 9:07 pm) I was at the opening of the original Tim Horton's on Ottawa Street in Hamilton, Ontario in 1964. Go Leafs! Wow!!! You actually experienced one of the greatest days in Canadian History. Impressive!
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Replying to: 2001gs430 (Dec 11, 2006 11:57 am) Neither! The Lexus was a great bargain in 1990 when the MSRP was in the $40K range in Canada. Now it is in the $80K range. Unlike the USA, in Canada the LS prices shot up significantly faster than our inflation rates. The MB S MSRP during these past 17 years grew significantly slower than our inflation rates. With these kinds of prices is it any wonder that Lexus is not the number one luxury auto company(in fact number 3 seller) in Canada? Value and Lexus is not synonymous in Canada but it still is in the USA.
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Replying to: merc1 (Dec 11, 2006 3:31 pm) We should stick to discussing Cars as Pat mentioned. At no point I have written any thing negative about Euro HELC ( unless you consider me praising the LS's strong suits offensive i.e. price, comfort, reliability ). Also, the published articles about the new LS, especially the bad ones, have so many similarities to what are said in this forum in tones, so I though I just poked fun at them. I do buy and hold TM shares, but it's not because of the LS was able to beat the S430 in comparo. Based on tested numbers, these are my observations about the LS460 - Need more braking power - Still can be had at a relatively bargain price. - Just as quick as the competing candidates. - Small turning radius - Much quieter than the competing candidates. My point here is I don't have a single problem about the new LS not beating other cars for the top place, but the negative tones are some thing entirely different. |
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Replying to: dewey (Dec 12, 2006 7:32 am) That is called product/market penetration in terms of marketing 101. However, a price difference to the direct competitor of 30K + is still a bargain in my book. Value and Lexus is not synonymous in Canada but it still is in the USA. See above. Unless we are trying force the LS back to entry level luxury. |
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