High End Luxury Cars

24700 messages, Last post on Dec 01, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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What is this discussion about? Audi A8, BMW 7 Series, Jaguar XJ-Series, Lexus LS 460, Mercedes-Benz S-Class, Volkswagen Phaeton, Maserati Quattroporte, Mercedes-Benz CL-Class, Sedan

Let's try to define this forum as being limited to luxury performance vehicles where the mainstream version in a typical configuration has an MSRP of at least $60k.

A luxury vehicle with a base price of $59k qualifies because it would typically be bought with some additional equipment, bringing the MSRP over $60k.

Vehicles like the E, 5, A6, M, or GS, even if available in certain versions over $60k, don't qualify because they are cars from companies that have higher end cars in their lineups.

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#21719 of 24700 Re: A lotta fun in here.... and of course my mea culpa (thanks) [oac] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (3:39 pm)
Replying to: oac (Dec 01, 2006 2:39 pm) Let me thank DHamilton, TagMan, D-Man, and Houdini1 for all of your comments... Always there for my fellow Californian...you are very welcome, oac. Tag, I have surely been way behind this forum so forgive my question here: Did you ditch the Lotus for the 911 ? Or did you add the latter to the stable? Ditched the Lotus. Injured my neck (not from the car), and the Lotus's ride (truckloads of fun) was WAY too brutal, so the Porsche is MUCH smoother. Lost a little $$$ in the process due to the extremely early trade, but in the end, I'm happy as can be with the Porsche..."There is no substitute!" Keep it cool and real. I'll be back soon. Hope so, and counting on it. Good luck and keep us posted. Can't wait to hear the outcome. TagMan
#21720 of 24700 Re: A lotta fun in here.... and of course my mea culpa (thanks) [oac] by hpowders Dec 01, 2006 (3:50 pm)
Replying to: oac (Dec 01, 2006 2:39 pm) Well thanks, Oac for the compliment! The pills must be starting to work! Good luck in your negotiation for the Porsche. Whoa! I thought Florida is the "sunshine state." Aren't you guys the "golden state?" I've been to San Diego many times-love Balboa Park, the great zoo and especially the wonderful Hotel del Coronado. But always start missing the palmetto bugs, 'gators, lousy football and baseball after a week or so and trudge back east to Florida.
#21721 of 24700 November Sales Data for Lexus LS and Mercedes S-Class by jcoby Dec 01, 2006 (3:52 pm)
Lexus and Mercedes-Benz have their sales data on their websites and is as follows (I found Lexus data at Toyota website): Lexus link title The LS 430 and the all-new LS 460 reported combined sales of 3,613, an increase of 116.3 percent. Mercedes link title (You will have to select December's data) Sales of the newest generation S-Class were nearly double this month over last November (2,780 vs. 1,400) I wonder what the LS460 will settle down to after the initial rush. The S-Class appears to have a natural range of 2400-2800 monthly based on monthly sales data throughout the year. I cut-and pasted the S-Class sales figures from earlier Mercedes press releases for the 2007 S-Class where a breakout was supplied. Please see below: "Boosting the February volume was the launch of the all-new 2007 S-Class, Mercedes flagship vehicle, which recorded 3,360 units, a 226.8 percent increase over February 2005" [February] "The strongest increase for the month (and for the year-to-date) was the flagship 2007 S-Class with sales of 3,033 units, an increase of 108.2 percent over last April." [April] "The strongest increase for the month (and for the year-to-date) was the flagship 2007 S-Class with sales of 2,526 units, an increase of 84.5 percent over last May." [May] "Highlights for the month include an 81 percent increase for the flagship S-Class model line (2,407 v. 1,330 units)." [June] "August sales were boosted by the Mercedes-Benz flagship S-Class which rose by 105.9 percent over August 2005 (2,427 v. 1,179 units)." [August] "Highlights for the month include an increase in sales of the flagship S-Class which rose by 126.4 percent over September 2005 (2,357 v. 1,041 units)" [September] "Sales of the newest generation S-Class were nearly double this month over last November (2,780 vs. 1,400)" [November] Audi did not present the A8 monthly sales data individually in any of the press releases that I located. The BMW data was not readily available to the general public (or I simply failed to locate it - it seems as though you have to register for the BMW Press Club to get this data). Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 4:10 pm) jcoby (Dec 01, 2006 5:05 pm) syswei (Dec 01, 2006 5:15 pm)
#21722 of 24700 Re: November Sales Data for Lexus LS and Mercedes S-Class [jcoby] by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: jcoby (Dec 01, 2006 3:52 pm) Curious. was this data month to month? Didn't the LS have minimum sales last month due to the transition, and weren't we supposed to expect inflated numbers for this month due to that? I remember ljflx suggesting something like that, and he would be the guy to know. TagMan Replies to this message: jcoby (Dec 01, 2006 5:05 pm)
#21723 of 24700 Re: November Sales Data for Lexus LS and Mercedes S-Class [tagman] by jcoby Dec 01, 2006 (5:05 pm)
Replying to: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 4:10 pm) The sales comparisons for the monthly data are year-over-year. Lexus LS sales for November 2006 increased by 116.3% compared to November 2005 and Mercedes S-Class sales for November 2006 increased by nearly 100% compared to November 2005.
#21724 of 24700 sales data by syswei Dec 01, 2006 (5:15 pm)
Replying to: jcoby (Dec 01, 2006 3:52 pm) jcoby, I usually go to theautochannel.com for this sort of data, though the same releases could probably be found on prnewswire or businesswire. car........11/06...06YTD...11/05...05YTD 7 Series 1,209 16,222 1,623 15,989 A8......... 362 4,606 422 4,873 The trends are perfectly understandable given the competitive situation and where the 7 is in its lifecycle, imho.
#21726 of 24700 Mercedes sales continue to get better by tagman Dec 01, 2006 (6:28 pm)
Specifically for Mercedes, here's another perspective... In November, Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) achieved its third-highest sales month in 42 years of doing business in the U.S. with 22,079 units sold for the month, a 20.8 percent increase over last November’s 18,284 units. This is the tenth consecutive month that MBUSA has posted record-breaking sales and marks the company’s best November on record. TagMan
#21727 of 24700 Considering the fact by drfill Dec 01, 2006 (7:04 pm)
That I predict the LS will clear 40k units for 2007, I'd say 3500 a month from now on would be normal LS business for Year 1. And 2500 for the S-Class could be consistent, if the LS doesn't affect it's sales. So 30k for the S550, and 40k for the LS. Since sales of the 7 have been pretty stable for the last two years, 2007 will show if the LS does steal share from BMW. I don't expect more than a 10% drop. DrFill Replies to this message: tagman (Dec 01, 2006 8:35 pm)